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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 20, 2026

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The last time I participated in this community I was in November. When as part of some discussion about how DnD had gone woke or something, /u/RandomRanger posted a very long comment where, to paraphrase, he said that black people were an inferior stupid race who bring crime and dysfunction wherever we go and that in order to stop the west from being "overrun" with blacks, white racists would need to "block" us in a way the didn't account for "international law" and "human rights". I replied calling him a cracker bitch and was temp-banned by the mods.

Now I know my outburst was against the rules, it was uncivil, I was reacting with anger, and I knew at the time I'd get banned for it. But I don't know, when I see someone essentially laying out a justification for bringing back slavery, how am I supposed to respond, as a black person? Am I expected to lay out some "well have you considered..."-ass intellectual rebuttal, Am I supposed to beg and plead for my own rights? "No sir, Please sir, I'm one of da good ones see!" I'm sorry but I don't have the patience for that

When made my first comment here where expressed profound distress over the possibly that HBD is real. I got a lot of responses along the lines of "well, what's it matter to you? you're an individual and population level statistics don't apply to you." I never thought that they applied to me. But when people in this community use HBD and crime statistics to argue that things Jim Crow and Apartheid were good and just and maybe should even be brought back THAT FUCKING AFFECTS ME. I'M BLACK

I remember another person asked me if I sincerely related to black underclass criminals and no I obviously don't but I relate to people like Toussaint Louverture, Malcolm X, Steve Biko. The intelligent black men who dedicated their lives to fighting the people who wanted to keep us in eternal subjugation for all the same goddamn reasons. And when I read what RandomRanger says about how society ought to forcefully disempower black people for the sake of having a "civilized" country. I'm reminded of the poem written by Claude McKay during Red Summer when white supremacists were terrorizing black people across America:

If we must die, let it be not like hogs Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot, While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs, Making their mock at our accursed lot.

If we must die, O let us nobly die, So that our precious blood may not be shed In vain; then even the monsters we defy Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!

O kinsmen! we must meet the common foe! Though far outnumbered let us show us brave And for their thousand blows deal one deathblow! What though before us lies the open grave?

Like men we'll face the murderous, cowardly pack, Pressed to the wall, dying, but fighting back!

So bring it on! I don't care if we won't win but I'll FIGHT LIKE HELL for my people and if I die I know I'll have died a proud black man who stood for dignity instead of cowering negro who submitted to slavery. I'LL NEVER BE ACCEPT BEING A SLAVE!!!

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It's very unlikely that slavery will come back for blacks, at least in the US. White TFR in both the US and Europe is sinking. Why? Feminism, cost of living, more educated women, contraceptives, the list goes on. Only in Africa is TFR still high, and it's possible that there will be substantial black African immigration to the US in the future to replace an increasingly aging white workforce.

You should be rejoicing over the current population trends. The US will be increasingly black, and it's not as if black people will choose to enslave their own tribe. Or actually, the US might be increasingly latino, so the risk is that latinos decide to enslave blacks.

Let me suggest a course of action to better secure the future for all blacks. With no sarcasm, just impregnate as many females as you can, focusing particularly on latino and white women. Impregnating white women reduces the threat of a a white majority eliminating the 13th amendment, like you fear. Impregnanting latino women is securing the near future, which is likely to be latino dominated. Latino TFR is dropping too, so after that it will just be black TFR maintaining the world population.

Mixed race children with black ancestry are often treated as just black. The larger tribe is usually safer, especially in a democracy.

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Don't want to be a slave? Make your tribe bigger, embrace democracy. HBD says my tribe is dumb? Who cares, I impregnated your tribe's women, we are all my tribe now.

The US will be increasingly black, and it's not as if black people will choose to enslave their own tribe

The transatlantic slave trade was largely Africans enslaving other Africans then selling those slaves to Europeans for transport.

Yes, true. But the culture of preindustrialized African societies is not the same as US blacks. Unless you are thinking that the propensity to enslave is genetic, rather than sociocultural, economic, and political opportunism. From the perspective of the Africans selling slaves back then, they were mostly selling the populations of rival tribes who were enemies. The romans enslaved the gauls, and they probably had a similar skin tone too. Selling off slaves of enemy populations was both profitable and weakened them in potential future conflicts. It was a good idea to sell them to distant strangers if possible, so the slaves would be unlikely to return for revenge.

So, the colonial age Africans who sold rival Africans were just doing what all of warring humanity had always done until the modern age. It does not mean US blacks will be more likely than average to sell other US blacks into slavery.

I don't think anyone is bringing back chattel slavery, since the economic conditions that made it useful no longer exist. The closest thing we have to modern chattel slavery, human trafficking, is mostly same race people victimizing each other. I don't think any US race is interested in enslaving any other race; it follows that the relative population of whites vs blacks is irrelevant to slavery in modern terms.

Somehow the question of who evil whitey was buying the slaves from gets forgotten. For example, Biden’s apology to African leaders for America’s “original sin” of slavery. One summary made by wrongthinkers: “sorry for buying what you were selling.”

I've concluded that most people think Americans caught them in Africa with big butterfly nets.

Well, it's fair to say the original sin of slavery is probably held by any large states that exist today, and thus indirectly by all modern populations except maybe the tiny islanders like the Sentinelese. Rome, Chinese dynasties, pretty much everywhere that won wars used some form of slavery.

America's slavery was in more recent memory and the ex-slaves have not fully genetically mixed into the descendants. Also Biden wanted to score some points with his voting base, so that was just tossing red meat (blue meat?) to the base.

Other than that, the justification for slavery, uplifting from barbarism, is bad from a modern Christian perspective. So a constant Christian apology must be given for the original sin of the past. The apologies will continue until the US is gone or until all of the US could be considered black.