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Why do a lot of women not like acknowledging the practical aspects of dating? By this I mean that women appear to be put off by me simply discussing:
Of course I'm not discussing these topic with women I'm trying to actually date, I'm not that autistic. But if you're trying to actually find a partner to settle down and have kids with, how do you not take all of these into account? Not only does it reek of impracticality, but on an even deeper level, it appears that any attempt to practically model the dating world at all produces a negative female reaction.
(Maybe it's because some of these women don't ever intend on having kids and therefore don't ever have to be realistic about dating.)
Imagine you are a woman, what are your primary concerns?
1)Your partner should love you, even when you face problems he should not abandon you. 2)Your partner should have admirable qualities and should be respectable. (A very simple test, if a woman being told that she is just like her partner would make her feel proud and happy then her partner is respectable) 3) Her partner should not have many bad traits or deal breakers
Asthetic qualities are part of 2.
Good. Now men pursuing women are going to lie and game the system so that they fulfill these criteria, her concern is going to be spot them. This cannot be done on pure reason alone, this needs intuition. It's paramount that the man is not just hiding his negative qualities at the start of the relationship and would show them later.
Let's say a man starts talking about dating market, this clearly indicates that he is likely to be part of manosphere and right wing. This fails 3 and 1. To the best of her knowledge such men are likely to hate women and are likely to be mercenary. The movement has a very bad reputation.
This completely poisons the well and no romantic feelings are going to emerge because she is worried and couldn't trust the man.
The most important thing is that the man demonstrates that he is trustworthy and has admirable qualities, after that is done then further into the relationship he can talk about dating market.
TLDR: Unless you show yourself to be trustworthy you are going to be judged based on the reputation of your group.
Of course, there is no rule that if people are honest about themselves women would date them. Some people may just be completely undateable.
Romance isn't a means to an end for women, it's an end goal as of itself. You can't logically convince them to do it or accept subpar romance. In the past there was incredible social pressure so some women had to accept it but now there is not.
2 and 3 are not based on some mathematical formula, they are dependent on culture, what is subpar varries.
This is incorrect because what is respectable in women and what is respectable in men are different. In particular, giving a woman too many compliments for her personality without complimenting her looks sends the implied message that she is ugly, in a way which wouldn't for a man.
"You are such a nice guy"
“You’d be a great stepdad someday.”
Where the hell did I see it, was it on here or some other hellsite, someone posted about a woman saying "you'd make a great dad" and being highly insulted by this, that she was dumping him in the friendzone and not seeing him as the rugged manly stallion prime hunk of masculinity that he was?
Meanwhile most women were commenting "but that's a compliment, she thinks you're husband material!" but seemingly "husband material" is also judged "rejecting my smouldering sexiness" aka "not giving me the ride".
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