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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 11, 2026

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There's always that feminist argument that medications are not sufficiently tested on women. Probably because there is too much variability on hormonal profiles and so on

More likely that if the woman later gets pregnant, or turns out to be pregnant despite you not allowing pregnant women in your study, the child, who signed no waivers, has an unlimited right to sue.

Perhaps it's time for a total and complete shutdown of family law and birth-related regulations until our country's representatives can figure out what's going on.

Blue tribe just need a strong Dr Fauci-like leader and the usual media campaign to spin it into a world-ending emergency to exempt the relevant corporations from legal consequences. Shouldn't be a big deal, barely an inconvenience. 'We need bodies for Russia/China/Iran/...'

Your objections seem maximally hand wavey 'yeah just massively alter society to fit this new goal, democrats did it back during covid'

Collapsing birthrates are a much bigger problem than covid. You're the one who cares about democracy, presumably. You should use the available tools of democracy to further goals that allow democracy to exist in the future. I for one am fine with democracy-skeptical high-birth-rates minorities taking over the future.

Where did I say I care about democracy?

You mentioned a government would be unpopular for overriding a few individuals' rights for the sake of enabling the continuation of mankind. This implicit concern for a government's popularity made me think you care about democracy.

Women's attitudes to childbirth and child raising are not the civilization-ending threat that modern Westerners think it is. The most backwards desert-dwelling tribesmen solved it thousands of years ago, this should be no big deal for the owners of the most sophisticated brainwashing system ever conceived.

Let's recap this whole thread

  1. MC posts about the fertility crisis.
  2. Self made writes about technology being a solution to avoid hard political problems.
  3. I respond more specifically about which technologies I think might help the most.
  4. You respond to me disagreeing with the usefulness of a particular technology, and suggest that the government should just force people to accept the danger.
  5. I say I don't think the government will be able to do that.
  6. You say if I care about democracy I should figure out how to make the government do that.

You have repeatedly and increasingly centralized the discussion around government. Every step was you moving in that direction. I joined this specific thread to talk about technology effects on fertility.

There are like a dozen other posters that will be happy to defend and discuss government effects on fertility. I'm not one of them. I don't care to play "pretend to be an authoritarian in order to save democracy". I like neither system so roleplaying as one to save the other has no appeal to me.

Go have the discussion you are looking for with someone else I am not the one you want.

To be clear, there is no fertility crisis. The people that really want to have kids are having them.

Some blue/grey people are hand-wringing about a lack of babies from their tribes but they are not accepting any of the obvious solutions at hand.

The blue/grey governments could absolutely make it easier to have babies in the near-term with solutions that are ethically in the same ballpark as the other stuff they are doing :

  • surrogates
  • abortion
  • sex organ surgery on 'wrong body/brain' theory grounds
  • general transhumanism and body mod stuff
  • compelling millions to inject experimental treatments because a Chinese grandma had a cough

If they did recognize 'not having enough people born here from parents born and raised here' as a problem, they could solve it through technology.

Even the ozempic craze demonstrates that the culture can do a 180 on 'body positivity' provided technology is allowed to do its thing. I wouldn't be that surprised if we solved 'racism' once the 'whitify'-pill is invented or alternatively the 'white embryo selection' paradigm takes hold.