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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 18, 2026

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The kids aren't alright (continued)

This college graduation season, many commencement speakers are extolling AI, then getting boo'd by the students. Most notably Eric Shmidt, in University of Arizona, after telling students to "deal with it"; also less recognized speakers in smaller universities (like MTSU and UCF).

Glendale Community College received additional boos because it used an AI tool to read students' names, which messed up.

In contrast, Steve Wozniak told students they "all have AI — actual intelligence" to applause.

This reflects multiple overlapping problems:

  • Age gap: Partly because of TFR collapse, old people have more resources, and are catered to more by politicians (who also are usually old themselves)
    • The graduates are Gen Z, the speakers are old (Eric Shmidt is a baby boomer)
  • Wealth gap: The white-collar job market (at least certain fields, like tech and art) is struggling, while top white-collar employing businesses are doing fine
    • The graduates are white-collar employees, the speakers are CEOs
  • AI favorability gap: AI has the potential to make the wealth gap worse and college more useless, to an extent it's already doing so
    • The graduates are against AI (believing it's contributing to their problems), the speakers are in favor
  • Collapsing college
    • College tuition has increased to absurd levels
    • College has become easier, evidenced by grade inflation and more attendees
    • College has become less personal, because there are more attendees
    • AI makes cheating much easier
    • College has become less helpful towards getting a better job, because there are more attendees, and grade inflation & cheating have caused employers to less value accreditations and GPA

Tech students are particularly affected: many were told that if they went to college, they'd be practically guaranteed an easy, high-paying job, like their older peers; but today they graduate to a bad job market. Meanwhile, the companies they planned to join are posting record profits. AI has invalidated some of their learned skills, and moreover, has the potential to worsen the job market and wealth gap.

Although it's not just tech. Liberal arts students have worse job prospects (although some of theirs were never good), and seem to be more against AI. Law and accounting are apparently being impacted, because AI automates their entry-level jobs.

In summary, the speakers have a completely different perspective due to their age, AI outlook, and wealth; and students aren't happy to see their college which has failed them do it one last time, by appointing an out-of-touch speaker (or using AI to flub announcing their names).


Where to go from here?

Undergraduate education is deeply flawed. I think (not an uncommon position): students should only go to college if for graduate education (which is also flawed but for different reasons, and has purpose until ASI or a suitable alternative). Otherwise, they can learn degree skills in high school or on-the-job training: probably a free unpaid internship, which (as long as it demands real skills, not cheap labor) would be an improvement over paying for college; or pursue a trade. But first, employers must no longer prioritize (let alone require) college degrees; I believe this is happening in some fields, but slowly. In the meantime, more students should and will attend cheap online degree mills, possibly alongside an internship (to graduate with job experience and a better resume).

As for AI...I don't really know. It has some great use-cases, and the potential to strictly improve standards of living (why do something that AI can automate?); it and/or another revolutionary advancement is probably necessary to mitigate climate change and TFR collapse. But it also causes some problems, and has the potential to create global catastrophe. Regardless, I don't expect I or the graduates can influence its evolution or effects. For those reasons, I'm not really optimistic or pessimistic about it. At least I'm aware enough not to extol it to college graduates.

But first, employers must no longer prioritize (let alone require) college degrees

And instead of using college degrees to filter out applicants, they will be using...? Remember, the most obvious answers are illegal.

Aptitude tests are explicitly legal.

I am very interested to see the outcomes of Palantir's Meritocracy Fellowship. Recruit people directly out of high school; use SATs and high school experience as proxies for g and conscientiousness; hire them if they succeed.

If college is replaced by unpaid internships, those. The internships would be easy to get, and incompetent employees would be fired early and not recommended, so their resume would only grant more unpaid internships.


Unpaid internships have the potential to teach more relevant skills cheaper. Ideally, they’re mutual: the employer gets a free worker, the employee learns exactly what they’ll need for a paid career.

Although they have the alternate potential to be worse than college: an employer may require busywork that would be useless in a real career, “grade” students unfairly (threaten to fire and give negative recommendation based on arbitrary criteria), and probably won’t provide the social aspect of college (which may shift out of college into third spaces if everyone's doing internships, but may remain or disappear, especially if employees are being overworked).

For this reason, I think internships should be advertised and accredited by some agency, like colleges are. Or, students should still attend college, but coursework should be almost entirely replaced with internships. The idea of an internship comes from today’s colleges’ internship programs: every one I’m aware of is highly praised, so much that I’ve frequently heard applicants choose colleges mainly for their internship opportunities.

If you suddenly have so much work done by unpaid interns, why hire any of them on for paid work? They leave, and their place is taken by yet another desperate unpaid intern. This isn't even slavery; slaves get fed.

It's apprenticeship. You hire them because they are now more skilled than the newer interns as a result of your tutelage. Obviously, many ways for this to go wrong in practice.