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No. He’s not American. Don’t make the but it’s the law. He will never be one of us. A piece of paper doesn’t make you an American.
hmmm, what counts then?
It’s like porn you know it when you see it. Culturally and genetically assimilated individuals.
hmmmmm, by your standards, if all wannabe naturalized citizens are subject to a jury who must unanimously affirm whether that person is American or or not, and if the jury does so, that person is an American?
I didn’t agree to a jury. But if you truly had a random 12 person jury of people across the country immigration would be essentially zero.
20-25% of Americans are basically Stephen Miller types who want 0 immigration. So on a jury of 12 you will likely get one. Then you would have to dodge someone that doesn’t like you in particular. And probably 30% of the population want in general less immigration but more than Stephen Miller.
A truly random jury of 12 Americans would approve very few immigrants.
So what would you agree to in terms of being an American? I really would like to know your true desire vs the minimal you would accept.
I literally said cultural and genetical assimilation. So no Haitians because their dumb and Viveks because he never assimilated.
Let me give an example of what I mean. Let's assume a version of a liberal/leftist with terms of "world where people don't go hungry", where their "true desire" is probably some form of "utopian communism" but they recognize the reality for what it is (that not all men are angel/that we don't have a post-scarcity world/etc.), and they settle. They don't settle all to the same position, but most settle with at least some form of what can be called "progressive tax system".
That's what I want to know about your stance. Your stance is "cultural and genetical assimilation as barrier to American-hood". I would like to know what is your "true desire", the one you wish the world would be to fully satiate your stance. But because of hard/impossible to solve constraints, you have to settle, and I want to know what is the least/minimal would you settle for.
I believe in evolution and genetics. Human populations evolved in certain environments and selected for population groups best fitted to their environment. This even occurs over small time frames. There are literally American genes now. https://x.com/levelsio/status/2058242736436781113?s=46 DRD7-4R gene “wanderlust gene” is higher in Americans than their source populations. Overall genetics control for a lot of IQ, Athletic, and personality traits. It probably would be fair to say modern immigrants to America have higher “wanderlust gene” too though immigration is easier today. But overall there are genetic profiles that better fit with American culture. We should only bring these people in.
But overall even if people are a genetic fit they also need to want to culturally assimilate with the American culture. For this I would criticize Vivek because he still doesn’t get American culture. Though he does seem to try so I probably wouldn’t exclude him from emigrate but I don’t like him as a politician. I wouldn’t be opposed to Indian immigration but we have probably done too many too fast and allowed ethnic enclaves and favoritism to develop and need to pause it for a while. Italians definitely took a long time to assimilate. And thus we paused Italian immigration for decades.
South Africans like Musks are probably very high quality immigrants. Genetically very similar which would include a similar selection effect for the wanderlusts gene.
This isn’t just a race thing. Orthodox Jews fit with America in a lot of ways, but some of them do build enclaves and use a lot of government services which is bad. There are a few examples where they take over entire towns, have low median income (use welfare), but also have good things like non-existent social disorder/crime. Like an urban version of Amish. So wanting to be one culture I think is very important in immigrant groups.
Many would fine these to be repugnant conclusions but it does seem like genetics have a huge effect on a countries gdp and culture. You can’t just be a creedal nation. The people in a country matter a lot.
And we should probably favor immigrants that benefit the native population. Citadel head of hft is a Chinese math Olympiad guy who’s very smart. But that’s a zero sum game and doesn’t have spillover effects for the rest of the economy. He really just took a seat that would have went to another American but his algorithms are slightly faster but creates no real excess value. I’d favor visas for people that do things that expand real economic output. I’d still let him in but would only approve visas for like doing battery tech research at Tesla.
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