Be advised: this thread is not for serious in-depth discussion of weighty topics (we have a link for that), this thread is not for anything Culture War related. This thread is for Fun. You got jokes? Share 'em. You got silly questions? Ask 'em.
- 120
- 2
What is this place?
This website is a place for people who want to move past shady thinking and test their ideas in a
court of people who don't all share the same biases. Our goal is to
optimize for light, not heat; this is a group effort, and all commentators are asked to do their part.
The weekly Culture War threads host the most
controversial topics and are the most visible aspect of The Motte. However, many other topics are
appropriate here. We encourage people to post anything related to science, politics, or philosophy;
if in doubt, post!
Check out The Vault for an archive of old quality posts.
You are encouraged to crosspost these elsewhere.
Why are you called The Motte?
A motte is a stone keep on a raised earthwork common in early medieval fortifications. More pertinently,
it's an element in a rhetorical move called a "Motte-and-Bailey",
originally identified by
philosopher Nicholas Shackel. It describes the tendency in discourse for people to move from a controversial
but high value claim to a defensible but less exciting one upon any resistance to the former. He likens
this to the medieval fortification, where a desirable land (the bailey) is abandoned when in danger for
the more easily defended motte. In Shackel's words, "The Motte represents the defensible but undesired
propositions to which one retreats when hard pressed."
On The Motte, always attempt to remain inside your defensible territory, even if you are not being pressed.
New post guidelines
If you're posting something that isn't related to the culture war, we encourage you to post a thread for it.
A submission statement is highly appreciated, but isn't necessary for text posts or links to largely-text posts
such as blogs or news articles; if we're unsure of the value of your post, we might remove it until you add a
submission statement. A submission statement is required for non-text sources (videos, podcasts, images).
Culture war posts go in the culture war thread; all links must either include a submission statement or
significant commentary. Bare links without those will be removed.
If in doubt, please post it!
Rules
- Courtesy
- Content
- Engagement
- When disagreeing with someone, state your objections explicitly.
- Proactively provide evidence in proportion to how partisan and inflammatory your claim might be.
- Accept temporary bans as a time-out, and don't attempt to rejoin the conversation until it's lifted.
- Don't attempt to build consensus or enforce ideological conformity.
- Write like everyone is reading and you want them to be included in the discussion.
- The Wildcard Rule
- The Metarule

Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Notes -
Video game thread
What are you playing this week?
I uninstalled Slay the Spire 1 and 2. I realized that the games (mainly sts2) took up a lot of time and capacity due to my need to play optimally, without giving me much joy in return.
Started and finished a Civ V game instead. I got around 30 wonders, because I was playing on a more relaxed difficulty than usual.
Tried out The Adventures of Elliot: The Millennium Tales (demo) briefly. Dismayed to find it has no ultrawide support. And they call it HD-2D yet all the characters are pixel art style. Might play it in 16:9 on my TV at some polnt. They've priced it very highly, and it has denuvo, so I might wait for a deep discount further down the road.
Playing way too much goddamn Bannerlord inbetween going through the latest version of Voices of the Void.
Bannerlord is annoying in that you can get 13 million denars in to your first playthrough only to realize that your character really isn't optimized to play the way you'd enjoy playing, so you go back and start over from scratch.
I do find it amusing that you can basically play a social monster in a game that is basically about people smacking each other in combat and it works.
Also, I find it hilarious that after pursuing the wife I targeted in-game(tracking down moving NPCs is a goddamn nightmare in this game) and successfully woo-ing her, that she's currently giving me lots and lots of kids to secure my future dynasty.
One time I nicked a castle off a revolting faction and had fun making my villages rich, but I didn't have the influence to get other lords to join so while I mostly was out of the way enough to avoid getting squashed, I couldn't expand either. I need to join a faction and build relationships letting the best lords free after battles a bit more, but I never stick to the solo plan and usually end up on faction goals for the poor lords who don't get enough support.
Then I usually swap to Crusader Kings for a bit.
More options
Context Copy link
Warband the last days mod for lord of the rings is still my favorite, even though the graphics are much worse. Prophecy of pendor is great too.
Same. I assume one day that Bannerlord will get conversion mods of that level again, and I'm pretty much waiting for that to return. Vanilla was fine for a few hours but I didn't want to get stuck in the endless grind
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
It's been awhile since I booted up bannerlord, I always wanted to love the game but whenever I would try to get landed without starting my own kingdom it was nearly impossible. The AI leaders would almost never give you castles or land, and god forbid a city even if you took it in battle. Which itself was bloody difficult because the enemy AI leaders always seemed to prioritize beating me up. And they spammed wars non-stop even ones they couldn't win to the point that maintaining any sort of diplomacy with NPCs in other kingdoms was pretty much pointless. Did any of that ever get fixed or is this just my gitgud moment.
I honestly wouldn't know. I'm still stuck in the 'become Big Boss' stage of Bannerlord where I'm basically running around with a huge mercenary army, grinding up charm, stewardship, and trade so to support said army and clan.
This basically lets me wade into battles when my vassal-state goes to war, tearing through most groups without issue, unless the AI decides to do a fucky-whucky and all of a sudden I'm facing down a horde of 500+ NPCs swarming me out of the blue. And even then...
The above lets me recoup any losses either from troops the enemy AI has captured, or the enemies I've captured and slowly converted over. Donating over prisoners I don't want nets me influence that then turns into alot of cash via mercenary contract.
Once I get trade up to max for that lovely, lovely cap perk, I'll either vassalize and start buying up all the things or start my own kingdom and do the exact same thing.
...say what you want about Bannerlord, but good lord does it have alot of stuff to do. One of the things I stumbled across in my research pointed out that you want to get your dynasty started early, cause your main guy can die of old age, and you want good offspring to take over when that happens.
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link
More options
Context Copy link