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And another culture (and shooting) war event happening right now, event of more importance than the pathetic one in Montreal.
After a year (lightning speed for justice) events that happened during protest at ICE detention center in July 4, 2025 were resolved.
In rather unexpected way, by maximum possible prison sentences.
Ineffectiveness of your resistance is no longer an mitigating circumstance, and using Signal is highly aggravating one.
The judge openly said that the sentences are meant to "send a message".
As expected, Xitter celebrates while Bluesky mourns. We will see if this is one time occurance, or Trump's promise to crack down on Antifa was meant seriously.
The court documents are split between three different pages due to glitchiness in RECAP: 1 2 3
There's no sentencing transcript yet, of course.
Reference is made to a pre-sentence report (laying out the prosecutor's rationale for requesting long prison sentences), but I can't find it.
Thank you for the links. I've gone for the first link link, document no 1 (main) and clicked Text rather than PDF.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71664415/1/united-states-v-arnold/
Search quickly finds me
This is so much worse than what I was expecting from the discussion that I'm having to re-calibrate my opinion of following online discussionNote that document 1 is only the initial complaint. The document on which the jury actually made convictions is, not document 1, but document 127, the second superseding indictment.
On that basis, Song was convicted (in document 367) of attempted murder of the police officer (but not of the two ICE officers).
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