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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 12, 2026

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I’d take the deal the Ukrainians are being offered.

You'd die for being replaced by Indians and line go up? I can understand opting for it in times if peace, because you'll probably enjoy the benefits before the negatives kick in. But what's the point of walking into the meat grinder for it?

Indians don't want to go to Ukraine. They want to go to richer countries which aren't currently on fire and covered in snow at the same time(the US obviously the ideal, but Canada, Australia, the UK, even Russia all rank far above Ukraine). Indians don't want to live in an impoverished shithole which has been wrecked by war and in which the average citizen is incredibly racist.

Indians don't want to go to Ukraine

They might prefer other countries, but they're not going to stay home if Ukraine is the only one on offer, and if Indians are too picky, there's always Africa.

Listen I don’t support immigration at all. I don’t think Indians should leave India. I want them deported from America. I even want denaturalization in the west.

But you can find benefits for Ukraine in the war and hope they are smart enough to not become Ikrinia.

I believe in Ukraine for Ukrainians and maybe some Russian Slavs who want out of Russia since they are similar.

But you can find benefits for Ukraine in the war and hope they are smart enough to not become Ikrinia.

If it was just about them being smart enough, one could have hope, but it's about pressure, propaganda, bribes and incentives. The idea is/was the they'll align themselves with western Europe, if they do that they'll be flooded with (even more) NGOs, they'll have EU money dangled in front of them for implementing the progressive social agenda, and their politicians will be offered cozy positions in Brussels to pull strings back home. This isn't something you can resist, because it sets up a "you have to get lucky every time, they have to get lucky once" dynamic.

This gets down to you can never do anything in the west pessimism but at the end of the day there isn’t anything else to bet on but the west. And for your concerns Poland doesn’t seem to have done infinite immigration.

Trump has gutted a significant part of the NGO complex with getting rid of USAID. Europe is getting center right pressure now (I can’t use their labeling far-right).

You still need to work to make a better world. You can’t just do endless pessimism.

This gets down to you can never do anything in the west pessimism

How? It's not about if "you can ever do anything", it's about whether you're setting yourself up for a series of structural disadvantages, that will negate whether or not a particular nation is "smart enough" to not implement a suicidal policy.

And I can't help but notice you never bothered denying said disadvantages.

And for your concerns Poland doesn’t seem to have done infinite immigration.

Sure, their number of migrants is finite... for now. They're actually a perfect example of what I'm talking about, as they already do have a number of people that came over from Pakistan and Africa which literally no one asked for. Their amount might cause an eyeroll from a German, Frenchman or Brit, but all this means is that they started the process later, not that they'll put a stop to it.

The only reason they're even doing as well as they are is because they've been under a "far right" government for years, which was subject to the exact pressures I described above, and even they got caught selling visas to third-worlders. On top of that more pressures are added daily on thr EU level (like the recently passed migration pact).

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