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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 19, 2026

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A woman, on the other hand, is of value the moment she finishes puberty.

I get the sentiment, but I think a more accurate picture is that attractive women have value via puberty, and unattractive women dont and are ignored/invisible.

I get the sentiment, but I think a more accurate picture is that attractive women have value via puberty, and unattractive women dont and are ignored/invisible.

I tend to disagree with this. Here's a thought experiment: Suppose there were (1) an unattractive woman in mild distress in a public place; or (2) an unattractive man in mild distress in a public place. For example, it appears that the person has just been kicked out of his/her apartment and is facing homelessness. Who is more likely to receive offers of help from strangers? Who is more likely to receive better and more prompt help from society? I think it's pretty obvious that it's the woman.

If you want to argue that attractive women are valued more than unattractive women, I won't dispute you. But to claim that unattractive women are ignored/invisible? Not at all, at least in comparison to low status men.

Attractive and extroverted women. Introverts get the short end of the stick all the time, regardless of physical appearance.

Neither introverts nor extroverts are “one” thing. I’ve dealt with extroverts who were extremely annoying and dumb as shit and also introverts who didn’t possess the mark of the ‘tism either, and were people you could engage with.

Attractive and extroverted women. Introverts get the short end of the stick all the time, regardless of physical appearance.

I would have to disagree with this, at least if we are comparing introverted women to introverted men.

Only true when compared to introverted men.

Only true when compared to introverted men.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. @satirizedoor was comparing men to women. Generally speaking, women automatically get valued by society while men do not. To be sure, some women are valued more than others, but in this context it's misleading to say that women are invisible/ignored if they are unattractive or introverted or both. Because it's an overstatement compared to the way society treats men.

Is there overlap? Would an extroverted, attractive but completely unaccomplished man be valued more than an introverted unattractive woman? Possibly yes, but I think that this doesn't take away from the general observation made by @satirizedoor.

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