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I really don't like making grand pronouncements (I think it's a bit narcissistic) but since I seem to have a reputation on The Motte I think it's only fair to take my licks:
Blah blah blah, words words words, excuses excuses, feel free to get your licks in now.
I just think Trump is too old now. He used to sort of break the rules of conventional politics, and get away with a lot because he was so good at answering opponents with funny retorts and social media. But he now he's just kind of old and grumpy and boring, so all of his controversial opinions come back to bite him and the rest of his party.
Trump in his current form reminds me of Biden 4 years ago. It's just darn hard to even understand what he's saying.
I think it’s familiarity. In 2016, Trump making jokes was a novelty, nobody else in politics was doing what he was doing. He would post a funny or hyperbolic tweet and the media would lose their minds over it. It would be talked about everywhere, by everyone, and his opponents would go crazy and yell about what he said.
In 2026, it doesn’t work because everyone is used to this style of politics. He posts, and everyone is just thinking “he’s just trolling, it doesn’t matter, and not worthy of attention.” So he posts, and thud, nothing happens. So it doesn’t land, and doesn’t help the cause. It’s like going back and listening to an edgy comedian from the 1980s. It’s not that it wasn’t funny, at that time in that cultural context, but that in 2026, our culture and our taboos have shifted and what would have been outrageous in 1986 is tame now. In the late 1980s, there was a show called Murphy Brown, and it attracted attention from politicians because it portrayed a woman giving birth as a single mother. I don’t think anyone would care in 2026. We are used to it. We know how the joke ends, and it’s just not gonna attract attention in 2026.
Trump honestly hasn’t changed much since 2016. But because we are no longer shocked or even surprised by Trump being Trump, it doesn’t land. So what worked in 2016 is boring in 2026. We’ve seen it all before so the novelty of Trump doesn’t work for him anymore.
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