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If by 'being Jews' you refer to '(1)only allowing blood-related people into your religion, claiming that only blood-relation can make you Jewish and (2) the whole other host of beliefs associated with the Holocaust/progressive worldview related to white people and institutions they like being intrinsically racist'.
(2) being most obviously exemplified by the memetic double claim 'fellow white people now is time to end racism/whiteness etc' + 'I'm not white I'm Jewish' when time comes to explain why affirmative action somehow does not apply to Jewish-heavy institutions.
Then yes.
But guess what, that is implicitly and sometimes explicitly what is demanded of white people. 'stop supporting whiteness'.
'stop surrounding yourself with other white people' / 'stop excluding non-whites' / 'stop taking non-whites' space [in formerly white-built institutions]
Why wouldn't it be more inclusive to have every synagogue open to worship Mohammed or even Hitler?
Well then not all Jews (NAJ).
Just the handful of ones that hold such power that they can get a beloved entertainment billionaire African-American to lose a money-printing contract with a sports clothing company.
[ADL & co / Kanye West / Adidas]
But uh oh isn't that an antisemitic trope to claim that a handful of Jews have disproportionate power?!
This is not a requirement to be Jewish. They do not go looking for converts, but it is possible to convert into Judaism.
This isn't a component of Judaism, and while it may be a fair description of many (not all) socially liberal Jews, it's not a defining characteristic of "Jewishness."
Your main objection seems to be specifically about contemporary leftist SJ-aligned Jews, yet you made reference to historical "ferocious" refusal to assimilate.
Even if we go with "Jews control Hollywood," yeah, that's still a long shot from saying "Jews cause anti-Semitism because they all cancelled Kanye and are afraid of being Holocausted and won't assimilate."
Not a very common thing to see. At least we can admit that they are pretty insular people.
In the one country where there is a large amount of them, Israel, they can't really be said to be very nice to the non-Jews.
Well, yes. Refusal to assimilate. All the Jews that decided to assimilate converted to Christianity, 2000 years ago.
All the Jews that exist now descend from people that had a chance to convert at some point, and decided not to.
And they've taught their descendants not to.
Similarly to the Amish. The Amish exist because they descend from a line of people that decided not to adopt technology and to teach their children not to. There are very few converts.
At any point in time an Amish person can decide to stop living the Amish life. Sure, they could still be considered Amish, but their children or grand-children would not.
The difference between the Amish and the Jews is that the Amish don't control banking and media corporations, don't control people's livelihood, what they buy, are allowed to buy or what they are allowed to think, who they are allowed to vote for.
Imagine if the owner of TheMotte was talking trash about the Amish and the Amish somehow coordinated with payment processing systems, internet infrastructure companies, other corporations to force the owner to close the website.
And when they would try go tell somebody about these events, their media invites would get cancelled or the media that did decide to host them would get banned from internet infrastructure companies, payment processing companies, etc.
This is what happens very often if not always when somebody talks trash about the Jews.
This would be fair if that was the first time this ever happened.
Rick Sanchez had the same issues in the 2010s.
Norm was joking about it in the 90s
My point of view is that a conspiracy does not need to exist for the results that we see.
I think that Jews in general, going through the historical selection that they went through, led them to inherit characteristics of people that not only cannot assimilate to a wider body of humanity, but also constantly feel under attack from the majority of humanity, and tend to overreact to that perceived attack, therefore triggering resentment.
Kind of like the common psychological phenomenon of somebody feeling insecure, thinking that everybody is constantly judging or scrutinizing them, therefore projecting an aura of awkwardness wherever they go, and causing people to perceive them as they self-evaluate.
These people find each over and bond over their uniqueness and their vulnerability against the rest of the mean world, and when inevitably their behavior causes the rest of the tribe to suffer, they are the first out the door, and the most likely to survive!
Who is most likely to survive a banking riot, the honest guy that doesn't really have any opinion about banking, or the insider Sam Bankman-Fried, who knows that there's a lot of bad things happening in banking, and if they're not coming for him, the pitchforks outside the windows are not good news anyway?
The easiest for rich, powerful Jews to get others to like them, is to personify noblesse oblige.
Be generous with your money, share your wealth, be a role model for others.
What do so many of them do?
George Soros goes and hires people to make US cities more dangerous (soft on crime DAs).
Others found organizations to help people illegally immigrate to the US (break the laws that protect the American people).
Sam Bankman Fried goes and scams a bunch of do-gooders who wanted to improve charity.
And of course the endless stream of progressive media 'stop whiteness now', 'you are racist for having standards of how your country should be that rich Jews disagree with' etc.
This is historical too. So many Jews could not stand that Americans had a right to self-association so they funded the Civil Rights movement.
The Amish like their life a certain way, they like to live among themselves and not mingle with others, like the Jews, but they're not forcing or even coercing anyone else to live their beliefs, drop their borders, accommodate foreigners, accommodate sexual minorities, drug addicts, etc.
"The Jews" don't control banking and media corporations - specific Jews do - and they're not uniformly Jewish. As I keep banging on about, Jews come in all sorts of different groups, and increasingly they're not even all that Jewish at all.
Specific Jews do the unbanking.
Specific Jews do the media influencing.
Specific Jews do the ADL, AIPAC, soft-on-crime DA, gun control, illegal immigrant charity... funding.
Specific Jews write the opinion pieces about how all white people are racist.
Specific Jews theorize the critical race, gender, border theories and teach them in colleges.
When you add them all up that ends up making a lot of specific individuals, but that still doesn't add up to the full Jewish population.
What are the other ones doing?
Are they coming out and saying 'us representatives of the Jewish bowling club of Broward County Florida, would like to address the egregious accusations against Kanye West / Nick Fuentes / etc, and show our support...'?
I haven't seen it.
If somebody happens to be an individual Jew who absolutely hates to see right-wing people get banned from media, people lose their job over criticism of powerful people, people get smeared every day for their skin color and other such things.
Then good for them.
But what I would call 'Team Jew' is absolutely opposed to them.
If that one individual is unable to shut down 'Team Jew', to tell their family members, cousins, in-laws, synagogue fellows, other members of the Jewish bowling club etc, to stop being part of Team Jew...
...well then they might become a casualty of the inevitable wave of 'antisemitism' (resentment against 'Team Jew').
That's not a threat, it just seems like a law of nature to me.
No nation in this whole world will endlessly tolerate a small group of people that is constantly undermining the majority
(which is what I perceive 'Team Jew' to be doing, which you may disagree with).
Everything you state is done by leftists. You are articulating objections to leftism.
A majority of Jews in the West are pretty leftist.
You're engaged in the worst kind of Chinese robber argument. "I hate these trends, I notice a lot of Jews are in favor of them, therefore RAAR JOOS!"
If that were actually happening, they'd be noticed and stopped. Leftism isn't some insidious thing Da Joos are sneaking into the culture. Leftism would not dry up and blow away if not for Da Joos. Leftism is one side in an ongoing culture war, and it's winning a lot for reasons we've discussed here at great length. Da Joos did not make it happen.
Wasn't that the point of the Holocaust?
And antisemitic persecutions before that?
The magna carta
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Exodus8 Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. 9 “Look,” he said to his people, “the Israelites have become far too numerous for us. 10 Come, we must deal shrewdly with them or they will become even more numerous and, if war breaks out, will join our enemies, fight against us and leave the country.”
Idk what the Jewish version says, but clearly, Jews have been dealt with as a threat for a very long time.
Well, as I said to SS, "It didn't happen but if it did, they deserved it" is certainly not a novel take.
Yes, Jews have been dealt with as a persecuted minority for a very long time. Of course the people who hate Jews don't say they are persecuting them for reasons of religious and ethnic prejudice, they say it's because they're a "threat."
Yes, now who should we believe?
The 1000 companies that fired the employee or the 1 employee that keeps claiming that all these companies are biased against him? What should the HR dept do?
It's sheer coincidence that hundreds of different peoples across time and space all coordinated to inexplicably hold this abhorrent hate for such a fine, distinguished people.
This is a tired argument but this was in reply to your remark:
Historically, problematic behavior from a small ethnic group has been noticed and stopped many, many times.
Whether you agree or disagree that the perception of a 'problematic' behavior was accurate or that the behavior was ethically 'problematic', I think we can both agree on that.
Now regarding your 'Chinese robbers' claim, the idea is that highlighting a certain demographic and random event can distort the perception of that demographic.
I agree.
But perhaps we can have data on that?
There was quite a bit of kvetching over this delightfully-titled piece 'The Specifically Jewy Perviness of Harvey Weinstein'.
I'm not going to go through all of them, but I'll assume that like this one, they do not provide any rebuttal that Weinstein is a specifically Jewish-type of pervert, or that Jews are more likely to be perverts than non-Jews.
I do believe that Jews are over-represented in the demographic of 'powerful people that commit sex/or and financial crimes'.
But I don't have data. I don't have data that would show me that it's only because they're over-represented in the demographic of powerful people,
or if on top of being over-powerful, they are also over-perverted.
If somebody had that kind of data to dispute my assumptions, that'd be great!
The Trump-era Jewish [sex] scandals seem to have faded from the news, perhaps due to the Biden family's own affairs making the topic inappropriate to bring up for journalists, compared to the earlier appetite for salacious rumors of the 'dossier' etc.
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