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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 10, 2023

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If a random 21 year old dude can just take top secret docs and spill them to his gaming bros

Random 21 year old dude can't. A 21 year old dude who has gotten a background investigation leading to a security clearance and has need to know and has had it pounded into his head that if he leaks this stuff he can be thrown into pound-me-in-the-ass-Federal-Prison can. The trick with a "determined spy" would be getting them to pass the background investigation.

The trick with a "determined spy" would be getting them to pass the background investigation.

Or befriend someone who did and get them to spill all the secrets. If a congressman is not too hard of a target, what is? How hard would it be for a smart and attractive female to get a 21 year old male to dance to any tune? If he is doing it for his game buddies, what he'd do for someone who actually can get him laid?

How hard would it be for a smart and attractive female to get a 21 year old male to dance to any tune?

Not as easy as you'd think, because a 21 year old male who has little problem getting laid is going to be suspicious of a woman asking him detailed questions about his job... and a 21 year old male who has a lot of problems getting laid is going to be EXTREMELY suspicious of said woman.

is going to be EXTREMELY suspicious of said woman

You seem to have a very elevated image of a horny 21 year old male. Most of them wouldn't be thinking too much with the right head in such situation, and only a minority would rationally evaluate the situation. And you need only one to get all the access. I would certainly be glad if I could be sure 100% of people who get access to classified data are carefully screened to be the cream of the crop of rationally thinking men, uncharacteristically mature and serious. However, I don't think anything I knew for a while or learned recently supports such a conclusion.

You seem to have a very elevated image of a horny 21 year old male. Most of them wouldn't be thinking too much with the right head in such situation, and only a minority would rationally evaluate the situation.

How do you expect this intelligence gathering to work? A congressman is a relatively easy target because he expects women to fall all over him due to his power, and spilling secrets to impress his new paramour is more or less something he considers a perk -- and expects her to be attracted to. All she has to do is encourage him. A regular guy who happens to have a security clearance doesn't have or expect that kind of relationship with women; a woman who wants to hear secrets right off the bat will set off alarm bells. So either she's going to have to play a fairly long game, or find a guy who is willing to trade secrets for sex while pretty much knowing what he's doing -- and the clearance process is supposed to weed that second type out, though of course it doesn't always.

Being a horny 21 year old doesn't mean you have no mind at all and will spill secrets to the first hottie who says hello.

There was that pfizer guy who got tricked by a right wing journalist. All they needed was to find a guy with a big mouth who wanted to brag. You may as well suggest that no one would be stupid enough to do this for clout to their discord buddies. The modern spy need only join the right disccord server.

Your example differs in basically all the particulars and thus demonstrates nothing.

If you say so. It's really not outlandish that the right people could be seduced.

Or befriend someone who did and get them to spill all the secrets.

This is how most spies operated during the cold war. Find and befriend people with access who had the right ideology or could be bribed to leak documents.