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I just think trans is a mental health disorder and a bad thing to teach anyone but especially kids while doing long term body transformations that will damage their entire life.
Probably some pedophiles involved to because it’s a useful movement for them.
I don’t view trans people and promoters for the most part as bad people or my enemies. I think they are mistaken and feel bad for them.
Because the behavior of the pro-transers is indistinguishable from pedophile grooming. That is why it is accurate as a descriptor even if 7/10 Transers are not interested in banging a trans kid at 14. Doesn't matter, what they are doing looks the same. And on top of that, it both 1) Provides cover for pedos, and 2) Desensitizes children to grooming behavior, thus enabling any pedos in their vicinity. Regarding 2, "oh nice teacher Clippy tells me all about her sex life and vagina and her lesbian encounters and that I shouldn't tell mom and dad what we talk about"... 2 years later creepy Mr. Dippy is telling me all the same stuff, but also he's touching my places. Well...
It is very distinguishable. In that as you point out they are not themselves trying to bang the kids. Thats the key aspect of CSE grooming.
Lots of people teach kids about various things to do with sex at various ages. The vast majority of them are not grooming kids into CSE.
And teaching kids that they shouldn't talk about sex and its shameful (the traditional approach) also enables people to take advantage of that shame so kids are too scared to cone forward. Thats what i have seen to be enabling abuse in practice.
On the other hand, teaching kids that it is shameful to report being molested, because only homophobes would be uncomfortable with it, also enables abuse in practice.
And who is advocating kids not reporting abuse like that?
I didn't say advocating kids not reporting it, I said teaching kids it is shameful to. By associating discomfort with being touched with homophobia and teaching that homophobia is bad, they end up teaching kids that their feelings of discomfort being touched are shameful thus making them afraid to report it.
That doesn't follow. We teach kids about bad touching regardless of who from.
I strongly disagree. We teach kids about bad touching in certain situations (notably straight men touching girls) and completely downplay and excuse it in others (notably women and gay men touching boys). Or, at the very least, that's what my experience was growing up being repeatedly told that such touching (including on multiple occasions directly grabbing my penis) wasn't sexual and I was being too sensitive. Maybe the movement has gotten better in the years since, but I don't see it from my perspective.
Never come across that in all my years dealing with CSE or something ant of my own kids were told. Every poece of literature, every lesdon was always about where was being touched not by who.
Certainly not by men, who were if anything more reported. Even for actually innocent things.
If there is a bias, it would probably be towards women on boys being less serious, which is i agree deeprooted culturally seen as not being as bad. But all the official stuff tries to counteract that. With varying degrees of success.
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