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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 15, 2023

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Ethnic/Cultural representation is considered to be important by many

Sure. Astrology is considered to be important by many too, so is the sacred status of cows (India has a billion people! If we go by numbers, I think we should talk about cows much more than about the White House!). That doesn't mean it makes any sense, and if your answer to "how does it make any sense" is just "a lot of people agree with me" - then probably you know it doesn't make any sense, but can't gather the strength to defy your peer group and get your mind free. Maybe one day.

I pray that the Jews one day “defy their peer group and free their mind”, as you put it. Do you do the same?

Interestingly enough, you don't pray that you do. It's always the other guy that has to do the work. Always others that are imperfect and need God to correct them (and, of course, even God needs your advice in that - there's no way He Himself could figure it out without your input! After all, he's only God - and the rumors are, He's at least 2/3 Jew at that, so no wonder!) Always praying for the other guy to be saved from his ignorance and delivered into the light, never for yourself. How selfless! It is really admirable.

I suppose I believe in a God of justice who does not privilege certain groups with the right to evade the objectivity of justice without recourse. I would have to consult the Pentateuch for further lessons.

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I would have to consult the Pentateuch for further lessons.

Wouldn't hurt. Reading more and assuming less about what's God's Justice looking like is not a bad idea.

I pray that the Jews one day “defy their peer group and free their mind”, as you put it. Do you do the same?

Your prayers were answered long ago.

(except for Orthodox Jews, but these are not the kind of Jews this thread is about, not many black hats in the White House)

Assimilation is killing the Jewish people

Jews have always been at the forefront of progressive ideas. This has made for a creative and dynamic people. Unfortunately, it has also led to increasing rates of assimilation and intermarriage.

According to the Pew Research Study of 2020, only 34 percent of U.S. Jews said that it was very important to them that their grandchildren be Jewish. With “cancel culture” leading the way and “wokism” as the new religion, the rate of assimilation and intermarriage in the United States is on its way up.

According to the Pew study, among American Jews who wed between 2010 and 2020, 61 percent intermarried. Among the non-Orthodox and non-affiliated, it was 72 percent. 98 percent of Orthodox Jews said that they were married to Jews.

Sixty percent of European Jewry has been lost to assimilation since WW II. In Poland, the figure stands at 70 percent. In the former Soviet Union, it reaches 90 percent. These are shocking statistics.

Israel is also far from immune, with a 38 percent jump in intermarriage from 2011 to 2018. Recent work by Dr. Netanel Fisher showed that there are 85,000 intermarried couples in Israel. The majority are Jewish men married to non-Jewish women from the former Soviet Union. A total of 7 percent of marriages in Israel are mixed.

That’s a valid point, I totally concede that. But I’d say that perhaps the ultra orthodox + conservative ascendancy is going to bring some issues, not soon but within 40 years, given birth rates.

not soon but within 40 years, given birth rates.

What is future of Jews in medium an long term, ofc assuming the current trends continue and we are not paperclipped by Omnius?

In the Middle East, Great Israel from Nile to Euphrate ran according to old time Biblical laws, with beautiful temple in Jerusalem covered in blood of sheep and goats all the time. Country as important as Saudi Arabia or Iran are today.

Outside the Middle East, there are many ultra Orthodox communities as influential as Amish and Mennonites are today, plus lots of people with some Hebraic tchotchkes inherited from great-grandparents stashed in the attic.

Conspiracy theorists complaining about Jews will be still there, but these complaints would be seen as absurd and quaint as complaints about freemasons are seen today.

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