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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 5, 2023

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I would argue this is mostly coincidental on the personal level — the exogamy rate of Jews and especially in academia is a great disproof of any conspiracy. Now, on the financial level? On the financial level it is indeed possible that leading ethnic-nationalistic Jews (religious zionists) would fund both pro-Jewish eugenics and be against eugenics applied to other people at large. Consider the case of Efrat

Senator Chuck Schumer, a noted pro-choice champion who has used the issue of abortion to secure his New York Senate, attended a 30th anniversary gala for Efrat. Schumer has been lauded by Planned Parenthood who called him a “hero,” with “a 100% pro-choice, pro-family planning voting record,” but in 2007 Schumer put his pro-choice position aside and joined his anti-abortion foes at the celebration. (Schumer’s office was contacted, but did not provide a comment for this story.)

American Friends of Efrat, the U.S.-based fundraising arm of Efrat (no relation to the settlement of the same name), is an Israeli anti-abortion group with hundreds of volunteers that counsel Jewish women against abortion and provide support for the first year of the child’s life.

According to IRS 990 tax reports, the American Friends of Efrat pulls from mainstream foundations including matching donations from Deutsche Bank, The Goldman Sachs Foundation and the Prudential Foundation. But the heftiest sums come from the Jewish community. Despite the fact that 89% of American Jews support abortion rights, the Federation Foundation of Greater Philadelphia sent the group $100,000 in 2004 and 2006, while the Jewish Community Foundation of the Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles gave C.R.I.B. just over $5,000 in 2007 and $10,000 in 2008. In addition, the Madav IX Foundation, a charitable organization funded by Jewish family foundations but administered by the Jewish Federation of Cleveland, gave the C.R.I.B. program $10,000 in 2008. The Madav IX Foundation shares the same Ohio address of the Bennet and Donna Yanowitz Family Foundation that gave the C.R.I.B. program $2,000 in 2004 and $1,000 in 2007.

”Israel is currently fighting a demographic war for her survival. As we go to print Israel’s borders are in jeopardy. The Arab birthright is about double the Jewish birthrate. General Uzi Dayan speaking as the Director for the Council of National security announced: ‘Demographic projections forecast an Arab majority in Israel by the year 2020 less than 15 years from now”

It’s really important we understand what anti-semitism ought to mean. Anti-semitism in the form of hating the Old Testament religion or hating a race or hating a language is always and forever bad. But what do you call someone who says, “I feel uncomfortable with a fiercely in-group ethno nationalist network that has high level donors who only fund their own bloodline”? Whatever you call this latter thing, it is utterly justified IMO. The problem is that there’s an element of Judaism that is literally just that; they believe that their race and DNA is infinitely more important than any belief or practice, and they believe their existence on earth is to secure the Jewish People and a future for Jewish children. Should such a group be free from criticism? Only if we want the world to devolve into tribal infighting in 200 years.

Senator Chuck Schumer, a noted pro-choice champion who has used the issue of abortion to secure his New York Senate, attended a 30th anniversary gala for Efrat. Schumer has been lauded by Planned Parenthood who called him a “hero,” with “a 100% pro-choice, pro-family planning voting record,” but in 2007 Schumer put his pro-choice position aside and joined his anti-abortion foes at the celebration. (Schumer’s office was contacted, but did not provide a comment for this story.)

Well, on the other hand...

Efrat has never protested outside a gynecological clinic, nor has it sought to restrict Israel’s fairly liberal abortion laws. Last month, the organization supported a proposal to allow women to undergo abortions without first appearing before a state committee, as the law currently requires.

Efrat’s president, Eli Schussheim, describes himself as pro-choice, a position he adopts more from pragmatism rather than principle.

It seems more like the kind of charity that supports single mothers in many religions and in secular society, which exist all over the world. I suppose it encourages women not to abort their children, but this isn't the major objection the left has with pro-life activists (the major objection is that pro-life activists believe abortion itself should be criminalized).

Well yeah, Efrat wants to help Jews, not “citizens of the nation Israel”. Israel is 74% Jewish. What Efrat does is influence Jewish women to have their children, and they’ve done this with 80k women so far. Given their advertising in my OP, they very specifically don’t care at all if Muslims have abortions, and in fact they probably support it! Again, this is obvious from their advertising. Remember that Israel is the state that subtly conspired to sterilize Ethiopian migrants with birth control shots. So… you’ve proven my point?

in fact they probably support it! Again, this is obvious from their advertising

Is it too much to ask to provide a link to the evidence that you claim supports what is a rather inflammatory claim?

Is it too much for you to read my post? Read my post and click the link.

Israel is currently fighting a demographic war for her survival […] The Arab birthright is about double the Jewish birthrate. General Uzi Dayan speaking as the Director for the Council of National security announced: ‘Demographic projections forecast an Arab majority in Israel by the year 2020 less than 15 years from now.’

The group that catastrophizes Muslims having babies, which fear-mongers this fact in order to fund Jewish women having babies (the group is directed toward Jewish women exclusively), yet is pro choice on the national stage? Yes, I can say they probably support Muslims having abortion, but you’re free to disagree if you find a reason to.

That quote isn’t from Efrat, it’s from an Israeli nationalist who supports it.

The quote is from the organization Friends of Efrat which is the org that Schumer among others is shown supporting

The point is that this organization doesn’t map onto the pro-life/pro-choice debate in American politics. The original post suggested hypocrisy among Jewish progressives like Chuck Schumer by suggesting they supported the pro-life position in Israel but the pro-choice one in America. That’s manifestly not true, because ‘Efrat’ is in fact pro-choice by American standards; actual pro-life activism has a relatively small role in the Israeli debate.

If the allegation is merely that Chuck Schumer once attended an event by an organization that used a quote by a Jewish nationalist Israeli general in an ad, that seems pretty weak.

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