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PaperclipPerfector  11mo ago (text post)   2345 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for June 9, 2023

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This is probably the best place to discuss the latest in the ongoing drama of the Reddit API changes. Short version is that Reddit's APIs used to be free, but they are rolling out a new scheme where they charge pretty substantially for them. The prices are high enough to make pretty much all of the third-party Reddit phone apps non-viable. This has made a lot of people quite upset, as the "official" app is reportedly significantly worse and is lacking a lot of moderator tools that many mods use to run their subreddits. There's a big "blackout" planned for June 12-14th in protest, where the mods of a bunch of subs will turn them private and users are encouraged to not use Reddit at all.

So lots of users are mad and claim that they're going to delete their accounts and/or stop using Reddit at all. It's not clear how many people overall are actually prepared to follow through on this long term. Personally I'm doubtful that it's enough to significantly hurt Reddit.

The developers of all the major independent mobile apps (Apollo, RedditIsFun, Sync, Relay, etc) say they're going to delete their API keys the day before charges start accruing, which will disable all of their installed apps at once. Apparently if they don't, they'll get a pretty hefty bill at the end of next month for everything all of the current users have been doing. Ouch. The Apollo link has a pretty long writeup of the dev's experience where he makes a good case that Reddit doesn't seem to have much interest in working with third-party app developers.

Probably the most significant part is the mod objections. Apparently a lot of mods of big subs do most of their modding on mobile using one of the third-party apps, and they say the mod tooling on the official app is so much worse that they won't be able to do their work. Every reddit sub relies on volunteer mods to keep them free of spam and abuse, and none of them are paid anything, so making their work more difficult will be very noticeable. If many mods follow through on this, it could be very significant indeed.

This discussion could probably fit just fine in the main thread.

I can say that I'm personally glad we have already moved off of reddit. I hope more communities are able to make a similar jump. It is maybe past time for the internet to fracture into a million pieces once again. The mass centralization wave of the last decade and a half has had many downsides.

I hope more communities are able to make a similar jump.

I doubt it. There's a real sense of learned helplessness.

Even subs like stupidpol that are totally hostile to the admins and identity politics of reddit - including some of the issues that spurred a desire on TheMotte to leave - appear just totally fatalistic.

I mean running your own website is a lot of work, and totally unpaid. We are super lucky to have admin’s that are willing to take on the burden.

Yeah, fair. I shouldn't have sounded disdainful, this sub probably had a disproportionate number of IT-interested people compared to other subs

I'm not sure it's that much work on top of what sub mods already do, but you do need at least a few trusted users with strong technical skills and a strong enough community for a critical mass of posters to be willing to continue their activity on a new site. We are indeed fortunate enough to have both.

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