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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 12, 2023

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You have a talent for writing lots of words, throwing down links, and copypastaing walls of text that dance around and suggestively pantomime a statement without actually directly answering the question. And as many other people have pointed out, selectively ignoring every time one of your arguments or citations is disproven, only to come back to it next time hoping no one will notice or remember.

So, I asked you if there is something specially malignant about Jews, and if you believe it's biological, and you give me a bunch of stuff about Tikkun Olam (yes, yes, we all know about Tikkun Olam, it's at this point a meme so old it's practically Boomer DR) and how it "suggests" that maybe in fact yes, Jews have evolved over thousands of years to become a uniquely insidious race with characteristics more threatening and hostile to outsiders than any other practitioners of a monotheistic religion. Such that it is now a biological imperative among anyone with Jewish DNA to try to subvert and destroy the society in which they live.

Would you say that is a fair characterization of what you believe? And if not, could you please be specific in explaining in what way I have misunderstood you?

Note that I am not even disputing, at the moment, your implicit equation of "supports liberal causes" with "wants to destroy civilization," though of course that is highly disputable as well. I'm giving you "Tikkun Olam" and asking what you think this actually says about Jews as a species.

Such that it is now a biological imperative among anyone with Jewish DNA to try to subvert and destroy the society in which they live.

Don't you see you are misrepresenting my point in the exact same way others misrepresent HBD: "Oh, so you're saying because of HBD there are no intelligent people in such-and-such group, and absolutely everyone from this group is smarter than that group." You are just using the exact same strategy here.

If you have truly internalized HBD you would recognize the question is not if a psychological quality is inherited, it's only the extent to which it's inherited. So it's basically tautological to ask if there's an HBD explanation for the behavior of Jews- of course there is, just like everyone else.

I would simply summarize: HBD would suggest Jews have a penchant for supporting radical causes and, surprise surprise, those radical causes that rally their support tend to prioritize the interests of Jews over non-Jews, and they tend to come into confrontation with Gentile culture. When Jews are telling you they are promoting anti-racism because of Tikkun Olam why don't you believe them? I do.

Don't you see you are misrepresenting my point in the exact same way others misrepresent HBD: "Oh, so you're saying because of HBD there are no intelligent people in such-and-such group, and absolutely everyone from this group is smarter than that group." You are just using the exact same strategy here.

No, I'm sure you don't believe that literally everyone with Jewish DNA is a (figurative) lizard person.

What it appears you believe is that Jewish DNA means the "modal" Jew (the middle of the bell curve, if you will) is a lizard person.

When Jews are telling you they are promoting anti-racism because of Tikkun Olam why don't you believe them? I do.

Of course I believe that, but that doesn't say any of the things about Jews, or even Judaism, that you are extrapolating.

Of course I believe that, but that doesn't say any of the things about Jews, or even Judaism, that you are extrapolating.

Anti-racism: White people have no ethnic identity, they do not get to ethnically advocate for themselves, they do not get to oppose demographic replacement in polite society, they do not get their own ethnic spaces. At the same time, criticizing Jews is strictly prohibited.

Wow, it turns out that influential Jews in the culture support this radical social idea that disenfranchises white people and provides social and legal protection to Jews, who would have thought? And they do perceive it as following the Jewish principle of Tikkun Olam, that's not a sham. They actually believe it.

I think you have to willfully ignore the tribalistic behavior at play to pretend that HBD cannot explain any of this, it's just the randomness of Jewish IQ influencing the chips to fall where they may and, it turns out coincidentally, they fall on the social movements where White people have no ethnic advocacy and Jewish identity is protected in all areas from criticism.

Anti-racism: White people have no ethnic identity, they do not get to ethnically advocate for themselves, they do not get to oppose demographic replacement in polite society, they do not get their own ethnic spaces. At the same time, criticizing Jews is strictly prohibited.

Do you think that anti-racists, and particularly Jewish anti-racists, would agree with you that that is an accurate description of what "anti-racism" means?

If not, do you think the discrepancy is because:

a) They are all lying.

b) They are all acting according to anti-white racial instincts they may not even be conscious of?

c) You are not accurately or charitably describing their actual beliefs?

Bonus question: Since you claim being "anti-racist" and believing in "Tikkun Olam" is a tribal, HBD-determined behavior, how do you explain all the Christians and atheists and agnostics and people of other faiths who are also fully immersed in "anti-racism" (and other liberal projects you ascribe to the Jews)? Are they:

a) Useful fools who've been assimilated and converged by the Jewish agenda?

b) Getting pinged by Jew-signals in their own Jewish DNA?

c) Acting according to their own tribal instincts which might occasionally overlap with those of Jews?

d) Actually formulating beliefs based on their own reason and morality, which might happen to be similar to beliefs that some Jews formulate based on their own reason and morality?

Do you think that anti-racists, and particularly Jewish anti-racists, would agree with you that that is an accurate description of what "anti-racism" means?

They oppose white ethnic advocacy, in many cases deny the existence of a "white" identity altogether, uniformly oppose protest to demographic change, and uniformly oppose anti-Semitism. They wouldn't describe "anti-racism" in these same words but I think we can drop the charade that anti-racism isn't opposed to white ethnic advocacy.

Bonus question: Since you claim being "anti-racist" and believing in "Tikkun Olam" is a tribal, HBD-determined behavior, how do you explain all the Christians and atheists and agnostics and people of other faiths who are also fully immersed in "anti-racism" (and other liberal projects you ascribe to the Jews)?

Politics are downstream from culture, the culture-creators have enormous influencing in guiding the reality-perception of the masses. We are all heavily influenced by the myths we believe in (theistic or otherwise) and the stories we internalize and the public narrative we see when we turn on the TV, that is the human condition that nobody is immune to, least of all Jews.

What I believe, and what HBD would suggest, is that some peoples have more talent than others in wielding cultural influence. They are able to create stories, myths, and narratives that provide cover for more esoteric meaning. This takes the form of Biblical myth but also prevailing cultural narratives like "We have to fight Saddam Hussein to make the Middle East safe for Democracy", which hide an esoteric motivation with exoteric form of artistic expression or propaganda. I don't think it's a coincidence that Jews dominate Hollywood or that it's just a matter of IQ. They are good at crafting stories and narratives that influence the masses. Asking "how do I explain Christians" is just hilarious in the recognition of this fact...

Under the assumption that Jews have relative advantages in creating influential culture, and that the prevailing culture is extremely anti-white and philo-semitic, it's hard to pretend that HBD provides no insight at all into the behavior of Jews and the prevailing culture.

You are doing a lot of subtle shifting of goalposts, as usual.

But I understand your answers to the above questions to be (b) and (a), respectively. So basically, Jews do what they do (specifically: try to destroy non-Jews) because of HBD, and everyone else follows their agenda because Jews have so cleverly crafted and sold a narrative to them. Is that accurate?

Follow-up question: do you have any theories as to why it is only Jews who have this genetic impulse to destroy all members of their outgroup and do so in such insidious ways? Or do all tribes have this impulse, but Jews have some special advantage that makes them better at it?

These words like "genetic impulse to destroy all members of their outgroup" and many others you've scattered through your posts is just your own weak-manning, feel free to copy + paste anything I've said that you object to because you aren't characterizing my position accurately.

The only two premises is that they have an HDB-explained talent for influencing culture and an (also HBD-explained) in-group preference. That's not goalpost shifting, that's what I have always said, and if I said something you think is particularly stronger than these claims then what was it? Tikkun Olam is relevant here because it shows how they construct moral preferences, which safeguard them and weaken the position of white people, as a universal "healing" of the world, which is a very convenient conception of healing the world.

These words like "genetic impulse to destroy all members of their outgroup" and many others you've scattered through your posts is just your own weak-manning, feel free to copy + paste anything I've said that you object to because you aren't characterizing my position accurately.

I am obviously phrasing it in a more blunt way, because you try to put it in a more evasive and less obviously culture warry way, but I genuinely do not see how my characterization is inaccurate. Why don't you explain it to me, as I've asked you to do numerous times? You do believe Jews act as they do for reasons that can be ascribed to HBD (i.e, genetics), yes? You do believe that Jews act to undermine and disempower their outgroup, yes? (Perhaps "destroy" assumes too much - maybe they'd be satisfied with complete subjugation?) I understand why you don't want to be pinned down admitting, in those words, that you believe Jews have a genetic impulse to destroy all members of their outgroup, because that would require showing your power level too blatantly, but no, I do not believe I am weakmanning you. You believe Jews are hostile and dangerous to non-Jews, that they are this way for genetic reasons and therefore it is a predilection that all Jews possess, even if they deny it or are unaware of it, and they are, if not uniquely so, then at least unusually energetic and successful at prosecuting tribal warfare, with the end goal of suppressing or extirpating rival tribes, across a span of millennia. Is any of that not correct?

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