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To continue the AI topic from the previous thread:
I responded to this with a lighthearted joke, but today when I was letting my mind wander, I remembered a recent story about a woman called Loab:
Thread continues, I recommend clicking for the visuals.
So it got me thinking - could you use something like this to scramble AI analyzing you / your community? Would mixing your content, with the result of negatively weighted prompts for whatever it is you normally do, generate a whole bunch of Loabs for people trying to spy on you?
So I looked through the thread and I can't really find what's so crazy about this.
They took a creepy image and combined it with all sorts of random stuff, and then out come more creepy images? That doesn't sound noteworthy.
The twitter OP emphasizes in the replies that the noteworthy thing is that the derivative images seem to conjure gore and body horror. The original creepy image is merely creepy and doesn't have any gore or body horror. This isn't that noteworthy if the training associates gore and body horror with the generally demonic looking eyes and the raw wounded-looking skin that are already in the source Loab.
It seems the researchers did
negative(negative("Brando"))
to get the original creepy image. I would be more impressed ifnegative(negative(X))
generated a Loab for many X, including things not anthropomorphic. Or am I misunderstanding something?I probably leaned into the creepiness of the original story too much. My actual question was more to the effect of "would mixing thing with negative(thing), be a valid countermeasure against AI going over your stuff?"
I can't visualize what "an AI going over your stuff or your community" is. Like if you wanted to make art but do some steganography on it to make it "unlearnable" by a text-to-image AI? Or; if you wanted to have a forum but do something to it so that a language AI couldn't generate plausible-sounding posts?
It's hard for me to imagine a way to mix that would attack the AI but leave human perception unchanged.
No, not quite...
I have this on my to-watch and have seen it yet, but here's a dad, using AI to go full MI6 on trans social contagion. It's trivial to imagine the government, or various "deradicalization" NGOs doing the same. My question is about possible ways of scrambling that. Having disturbing artifacts randomly pop up for the investigator would be hilarious, and a plus, but not necessary.
Gilltrut, downthread, seems to disagree
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