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Wellness Wednesday for July 5, 2023

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Why do stimulants make me sleepy during the day but keep me wide awake at night? FWIW I’m generally sleepy during the day which peaks around 7-8 ( to the point I can fall asleep for a nap within 30 seconds) then hyper awake starting at around 9.

I dislike working during the day. This isn’t uncommon in finance, true the hours are bad but it’s a common meme that bankers rock up at 10, check their emails for 2 hours, go to lunch and the gym, then come back at 4 when the MD has comments and then work until 3am, rinse and repeat. Partially this is because bosses expect things they comment on before they go home to be ‘pls fix’ed by 9am the next morning, but it’s also because i think quite a few people don’t work well in the middle of the day. I’ve always worked best from maybe 4pm to 10pm (1am at a stretch), even at school and in college. I have stuff to do right now, but I’m here because I want to be, I don’t feel like working, I need the late afternoon panic to kick in (etc).

Another possibility is screen time. I can be really tired at 10pm, but if I decide to play videogames or watch a show and don’t fall asleep in the first ten minutes (which doesn’t happen) I’m often awake until the early hours.

Which stimulants? Something mild like coffee, or Ritalin?

Legal stimulants - coffee, nicotine etc.

Like a couple puffs on a vape at 2pm will literally put me to sleep but when I puff at 10pm it’s actually stimulating and increases focus.

I don’t take ADHD medication.

A tendency to become sleepy after coffee seems to at least linked to genetics. I will caveat I didn't find a good source for this, but I did find:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3368971/

That shows that being immune to the effects of coffee might be genetic.

I know coffee makes my mom sleepy!

Finally. I thought it was just me who was weird.