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PaperclipPerfector  9mo ago (text post)   3630 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for July 30, 2023

Do you have a dumb question that you're kind of embarrassed to ask in the main thread? Is there something you're just not sure about?

This is your opportunity to ask questions. No question too simple or too silly.

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What motivates you to post on this site? Anything in particular?

I got accused of projecting last night while drunk-replying (always a bad idea) and I realized that's totally right. I project constantly when I write online, and I'm okay with it. A lot of my motivation for writing is to get my ideas out there, test them against the intellectual mettle of folks I respect, and ideally making my ideas into a more cohesive shape.

Refining my views, finding interest views, getting criticism of my views.

Themotte works as fun training in “quick argument generation” because topics are variable, challenging, and diverse. Twitter doesn’t work like this because of character generation and the emphasis on low-information dunking and insults, Reddit used to be good but not much anymore, and there is no real life equivalent that occurs with frequency. If there were, like, 17th century coffeehouses, I’d just be chilling there instead

Sign me up for the 17th century coffeehouse and salon revival please. That sounds dope. We can even add adderall and cocaine this time.

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A motte is a stone keep on a raised earthwork common in early medieval fortifications. More pertinently, it's an element in a rhetorical move called a "Motte-and-Bailey", originally identified by philosopher Nicholas Shackel. It describes the tendency in discourse for people to move from a controversial but high value claim to a defensible but less exciting one upon any resistance to the former. He likens this to the medieval fortification, where a desirable land (the bailey) is abandoned when in danger for the more easily defended motte. In Shackel's words, "The Motte represents the defensible but undesired propositions to which one retreats when hard pressed."

On The Motte, always attempt to remain inside your defensible territory, even if you are not being pressed.


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