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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 7, 2023

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I also, on principal and because I have many non-white friends and family members, abhor white nationalism and antisemitism.

This is like saying you abhor Zionism because you have non-Jewish friends. You have non-white friends, so you don't think white people should retain any ethnic identity or advocate for it in any way? How does that make sense? Do you deny any other ethnic group its ability to advocate for its own interests because you have friends outside that ethnic group? I have non-Chinese friends so I abhor Chinese nationalism I guess... Would that make sense to you, or does this sort of logic only apply for white people?

China has nothing to do with anything, although they’re certainly welcome to keep their society mono ethnicly Han if they want to. On the other hand keeping the US majority anglo white is not going to happen with measures short of genocide or other mass population movement. I’m not sure how nonwhites are less American than whites, as you’re implying- we’ve had lots of black people and natives here since the beginning and you can decry that fact but denying their American-ness makes no sense. Likewise chinamen are not recent arrivals and often predate many of the white Americans.

Look, I’m a Cajun. I’m part of an actual ethnic group that’s defined in part by being white or at least white-ish. ‘Whites aren’t allowed to have ethnic identity’ is just false to me, they’re not allowed to have ethnic identity generically as whites. German American or Irish American heritage or whatever is not controversial. Southern heritage is, but that’s individual prejudice. Yes there are stupid things being done that harm whites on the whole, but it’s a suspicious gerrymander to define white Americans as an ethnic group excluding non-whites.

I’m not sure how nonwhites are less American than whites, as you’re implying- we’ve had lots of black people and natives here since the beginning and you can decry that fact but denying their American-ness makes no sense.

This is a sleight of hand. "Black people who have lived here since the 17th century are American, so that means that whatever foreigner showed up 5 years ago is American too!" Despite the fact that there were 2% Mexicans and 0.1% Chinese living in America in 1870 or whatever, the large majority of the non-white population has only been present since after 1965 and can be easily distinguished from the pre-1965 inhabitants in terms of culture alone.