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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 21, 2023

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Not in the least Hlynka, but such nuance is lost on poor folk like me who have to translate to "Indian" in their head, with the mental overhead that entails.

Oh, oh, you had drama with Hlynka, and one that sounds like it involved some very stupid things said?! Spill the tea pls!

https://www.themotte.org/post/565/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/116403?context=8#context

You are conflating two vastly different things. Perhapse this is an issue of poor translation between Indian and English but what GPT has is better described as a notion of "consensus" or "correlation".

Yeah.

I was pleased to see that pretty much everyone called him out on his racism, not that I made the accusation myself. I just found it supremely funny that he had the gall to make that claim when I likely speak and write better English than he does!

There is a deep irony in a HBDer complaining about "racism". Do you believe in human bio-diversity or don't you?

I'm pretty sure I've claimed a dozen times that HBD is true. That doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to call out clear and evident racism, and it's not just me, I recall both @2rafa and @Amadan pointed it out before I did.

If I ran into a black doctor, I certainly wouldn't ask if some apparent confusion was due to them being unable to translate from English to "African" (or call him the n-word), and your statement is clearly indefensible since, well, I speak the language at least as well as you do and have given no reason to assume otherwise. Quite the contrary in fact. There's no charitable explanation on offer, especially since you've seen me around for years. Let's not pretend otherwise.

HBD doesn't preclude you from gauging individual people on their own merits. The majority of us dismiss the reality of structural racism, not the garden variety kind, though even that is inconsequential.

Im not saying that you're not allowed to be a hypocrite. Im saying that you are a hypocrite.

Edit to add: if your whole thing is that judging people based on thier ethnicity rather than thier individual merit is good and proper, i dont think you should get to complain about being treated unfairly when orhers do exactly that. You're not angry at me for being unfair or uncharitable. You're angry at me for being too fair and too charitable.

Whatever lets you sleep at night Hlynka. I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

I'm gonna give you a pass on that one, but c'mon, you know better.

Sigh, you're right.

I do genuinely not get what point he's trying to make here though.

I'm trying to make the point that contra pretty much anyone one on this forum, humanity is more permeable than it is rational.

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