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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 21, 2023

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Do the suck? Afghanistan chose to kick out the neolibs and preferred this society. Utah doesn’t suck. Saudi Arabia is the least sucky place in the ME besides Israel and half of Israel is the high Iq pop in the world hiding in religious instruction.

The US is probably pushing 200k suicides, drug overdoses, and murders per years. Let’s just say 300 million Americans slightly low or 1 in 1500 people. Over 80 year lifespan it means about 1 in 20 people will die voluntarily. You want to tell me liberalism doesn’t suck and there isn’t something deeply flawed with it?

IMO I probably am not advocating for an actual theocracy but something like earlier America. Something more like Utah with a powerful embedded Church and strong social norms. But that might not be stable.

Afghanistan is a barely functional tribal warzone with a life expectancy a decade lower than the US.

Above replacement fertility beats life expectancy any day of the week.

You are embedding that liberalism is necessary for technology. The key thing for a place like the Saudis is the outperform their peer groups. The roads are better. It’s not like pre-modern liberalism America failed to build things.

“It is”

  • ignores history and thinks it’s just started in year 2000

European Civilization is not modern liberalism. European Civ was highly Christian Nationalism.

Also think you are highly underestimating Saudis civil society. But can’t find the source material now.

Non-secular liberalism: got us to the moon, gave us the Internet, and pretty much every other marvel technological marvel you were praising in previous comments.

Secular liberalism: coasted on for a dozen or so years and sent us tumbling down the slippery slope of various critical theories?

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