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Small-Scale Question Sunday for September 10, 2023

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I want to get a new PC for gaming - not necessarily the newest or most expensive, but something that can run Elden Ring, Starfield, etc and not lag out like crazy on 1080p.

Tried going back to reddit, but it feels like it's all just bots and spammers now when it comes to prebuilt. Now I would prefer a prebuilt, although I am open to building a PC. Main frustration is just that it takes time, and there are risks with it. I've built a PC before but willing to spend the extra $200-300 for convenience.

I've found a couple and I want to get the Motte's opinion. Or feel free to just send me a link to one you like. My budget is around $1400 max but I'd like to spend less. Here are the ones I'm looking at rn:

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-005D-00007?Item=9SIBGVAK3Y1784

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-003E-000W7

https://www.newegg.com/acer-po3-640g-ur11-predator/p/N82E16883101889

Please help me out fellow Mottizens!

@self_made_human @official_techsupport

EDIT: ended up going with the Yeiyan - https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-sh34f0b-4701u/p/3D5-002P-00038?Item=3D5-002P-00038

All told if you add up the parts it's only an extra $100 or so for the whole rig. Plus a keyboard and windows 11 license. Seems like a great deal.

If anyone is curious PM me next week and I'll let you know if there are any issues with it.

The 2nd one, maybe. It lacks important information about the hard drive. The current bottleneck in PC gaming is data speeds of the HDD. M2 is the way to go but there is incredible variation. Current gen is pcie4 with read/writes of at least 4000, with 6000+ being preferred. I'm not a fan of AMD GPUs but I'm sure they are fine. I had multiple bad experienced with anything AMD in the past and will never buy one again. 16mb of RAM really doesn't cut it for a modern gaming PC either, but thats not a terribly expensive upgrade. Not clearly listing the MB specs is also concerning.

I'd echo the advice of using Partpicker. If you have an IRL contact who build their own or is up to date on what the current value parts are I'd try to pester them about it. All those prebuilds are terrible low-info on their specs which is a red flag to me. You can build an absolutely slamming gaming PC for 1400 np. I'd look for a good deal on a MB/CPU bundle and build from there. Its only slightly more difficult than Lego to put them together. Seating the CPU is the only real "danger" moment of breaking something costly, a bundle will solve for that.

My last build was 3 years ago. GPU: GeForce RTX 2070 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8600K This MB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WL5MFXL 32gb of DDR4 RAM - Crucial Samsung 970evo pcie m.2 SSD 2tb

The whole thing was about $800. It still crushes every game I've ever thrown at it at high graphics.