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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
and their political stooges in American government, naturally
Oh come on... You know perfectly well how much aid Israel gets and how much aid Palestine gets from the US. US officials will randomly go on bizarre outbursts about how their number 1 responsibility as secretary for state... is standing up for Israel. The US is 200% on Israel's side, they've got billions in munitions 'pre-supplied' for Israel to use in emergencies like this and more on the way.
but it simply cannot be understood without first acknowledging the central truth
but it simply cannot be understood without first acknowledging the central truth
Consensus-building much?
I did not suggest, sneakily or directly, that "we all know" this to be true, and I did not treat it as a given truth. I argued that it is true, complete with a couple of links to background context and further information, and then I suggested in essence that if people fail to understand this point, the mistakes of the past will be repeated in the future. That is not consensus-building, that is just making an argument.
The squad are also a very bad example. They folded like paper tigers when it came to re-electing Nancy Pelosi as House speaker. They could have used their leverage to secure medicare for all or do any number of things they stated they would do. They chose not to. They are completely in the DEM machine's pocket.
The official policy of the last two Democrat presidents of the US has been to fund Iran via "nuclear agreements" which results in funds directly flowing to Hamas and Hezbollah. It aint 6/430. It has been 1/1.
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Oh come on... You know perfectly well how much aid Israel gets and how much aid Palestine gets from the US. US officials will randomly go on bizarre outbursts about how their number 1 responsibility as secretary for state... is standing up for Israel. The US is 200% on Israel's side, they've got billions in munitions 'pre-supplied' for Israel to use in emergencies like this and more on the way.
Consensus-building much?
And yet powerful American politicians are clearly less than 100% on Israel's side.
I did not suggest, sneakily or directly, that "we all know" this to be true, and I did not treat it as a given truth. I argued that it is true, complete with a couple of links to background context and further information, and then I suggested in essence that if people fail to understand this point, the mistakes of the past will be repeated in the future. That is not consensus-building, that is just making an argument.
The squad are also a very bad example. They folded like paper tigers when it came to re-electing Nancy Pelosi as House speaker. They could have used their leverage to secure medicare for all or do any number of things they stated they would do. They chose not to. They are completely in the DEM machine's pocket.
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