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Israel-Gaza Megathread #2
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
That the IDF released audio of Hamas operatives saying it was from Islamic Jihad, but the audio is clearly faked with bad Palestinian accents and crappy acting. Why do you think the IDF would release obviously doctored audio? Stupidity thinking that no one would call them on it? Rationally making the calculation their supporters would eat it up and it won't make their detractors any angrier than they are? That maybe it isn't actually faked and some Hamas operatives actually do just talk like that? But even to me, I don't speak a lick of Arabic, the tone of voices does sound like script reading and it felt very convenient how they described so much incriminating and explanatory information in a minute of conversation, like exposition from the beginning of a bad movie. Thoughts?
I don't speak Arabic, so I can't tell if it is true or not. But I also observe that there are a great many Arabic speakers who hate Israel with the passion of a thousand burning suns, so I'm not sure to what extent I can trust the reports of those who do speak Arabic either.
I’m not going to say it’s impossible it’s a fake, but the relevant Israeli departments surely have enough people on staff who have good Palestinian accents that this claim significantly raises my priors towards the debunking being fake.
I still want to believe that this is the equivalent of someone going "ching chong ding dong", but everybody in the west is too ignorant to notice, and too in awe of Mossad to believe something like that could happen.
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Notes -
In regards to the recent hospital explosion, it's looking increasingly likely that Israel did not cause the explosion.
https://manifold.markets/MilfordHammerschmidt/did-the-idf-just-now-blow-up-a-hosp
I saw this however on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/alextomo/status/1714670858914894046?t=UcPxGEUM5ShnUpc8Hav3Vw&s=19
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1714548529538953637?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1714548529538953637%7Ctwgr%5E4bbaa419eb9133e336435eb810800500af090537%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hindustantimes.com%2Fworld-news%2Fidf-shares-audio-of-hamas-allegedly-talking-about-rocket-that-hit-gaza-hospital-it-misfired-101697630817752.html
That the IDF released audio of Hamas operatives saying it was from Islamic Jihad, but the audio is clearly faked with bad Palestinian accents and crappy acting. Why do you think the IDF would release obviously doctored audio? Stupidity thinking that no one would call them on it? Rationally making the calculation their supporters would eat it up and it won't make their detractors any angrier than they are? That maybe it isn't actually faked and some Hamas operatives actually do just talk like that? But even to me, I don't speak a lick of Arabic, the tone of voices does sound like script reading and it felt very convenient how they described so much incriminating and explanatory information in a minute of conversation, like exposition from the beginning of a bad movie. Thoughts?
I don't speak Arabic, so I can't tell if it is true or not. But I also observe that there are a great many Arabic speakers who hate Israel with the passion of a thousand burning suns, so I'm not sure to what extent I can trust the reports of those who do speak Arabic either.
I’m not going to say it’s impossible it’s a fake, but the relevant Israeli departments surely have enough people on staff who have good Palestinian accents that this claim significantly raises my priors towards the debunking being fake.
I still want to believe that this is the equivalent of someone going "ching chong ding dong", but everybody in the west is too ignorant to notice, and too in awe of Mossad to believe something like that could happen.
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