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naraburns  nihil supernum  6mo ago (text post)   29915 thread views

Israel-Gaza Megathread #2

This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.

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Informative thread on the Hospital Blast

at 0:23 you can hear what sounds like an Israeli fighter jet in the background. It appears roughly 2 seconds before we see the explosion at the hospital and disappears at 0:30.

Airstrike Hypothesis: Pros - The main strength of this argument is the initial audio, due to its similarities with another IDF airstrike. Additionally, the strength of the impact/shockwave had the ability to launch a human body and a car into the air. Cons - The current shrapnel dispersion aligns with shrapnel from a projectile impacting the road, as more shrapnel fans upwards and out - but is obscured by the trees/cars. Windows in relatively close proximity are also not all destroyed.

Misfire Hypothesis: Pros - Depending on the type of rocket fired by Hamas/PIJ we could potentially get a similar sound of impact. Also, the crater location is directly next to where the victims were in the yard and the cars (with fuel) that moved -Crater size supports this.

Newly reached conclusion: Based on the audio of the explosion, the shrapnel dispersion, and the newly published video: Both the misfire hypothesis & the airstrike hypothesis hold equal weight. I will update this again after experts in the respective fields analyze these issues.

All around a highly informative thread by an (independent) Israeli researcher. Debunks some evidence and brings in new evidence — of particular note is a video that seems to confirm the sound of an Israeli jet. He disconfirms the interception hypothesis based on the sound of the projectile and the magnitude of the blast. His next post will apparently include evidence from Earshot.NGO which specializes in sonic analysis.

99.9% It was some Gazan org that hit a parking lot. Evidence: nobody cares about it anymore and the 500 dead claim disappeared in the morning light. If it were Israeli forces, it would still be in the news.

My priors are completely opposite. Zionists have more influence over American news, business, and foreign policy than the Arab world.

I am sure they have more influence over US foreign policy (though Saudi-Arabia isn’t too bad at influencing the US either). Business for sure (though again … Oil is important).

But the media? If “500 killed in suspected Israel Hospital attack” * with an image of an unrelated collapsed building on the frontpage of the NYT is how Zionists control the media … these Zionist overlords are unusually inept. Especially since none of the things in this headline ended up being clearly true in the end.

I am not saying there aren’t many jewish people working in media (though you should see physics if you are looking for an area where I am almost surprised if a person of importance isn’t jewish). Just that the Zionists are clearly not in charge here.

*I don’t remember the exact headline, quoting from vague memory here.

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