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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 19, 2022

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I think Desantis' stunt here was stupid and may be a marker for the end of the Republican Party based on them cheering for a clear waste of taxpayer dollars.

But seized?

That's just as gross an exageration as the fools saying that Martha's Vineyard "kicked out" the 50 immigrants. Shame on them, and shame on you.

Bringing attention to the subject has the potential to save taxpayer dollars in the long run.

And with that logic you excuse every dollar spent ever.

Congratulations.

Unfortunately “don’t spend taxpayer dollars” is a losing proposition, especially when many voters don’t even contribute any taxpayer dollars.

We are well past the point where penny pinching made even the slightest sense. Biden just executed a unilateral handout to his base worth billions, plural. The money is getting looted regardless; it might as well serve our interests rather than our enemies'.

What do you think is required for you to be "seized" within the meaning of the fourth amendment? From the complaint:

Particularly after the individual Plaintiffs had boarded the airplanes and were in mid-air, Plaintiffs were not free to leave, and were induced into that condition through false promises and misrepresentations. This constitutes a governmental termination of Plaintiffs’ freedom of movement through means intentionally applied.

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After the individual Plaintiffs had boarded the airplanes and were in mid-air, Plaintiffs were not free to leave

Oh no! DeSantis did not provide them all with parachutes so they could jump out of the plane if they changed their minds!

This is bonkers. Of course you can't be "free to leave" a plane in mid-air, not unless you are planning to commit suicide. Who wrote this complaint, the scriptwriters for Rings of Power?

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What did you want the aircraft to do, pull over at the nearest truck stop so the passengers could get a fountain drink and a bag of skittles?

...Is that not what other airports can act as? Granted, that's mostly an emergency thing, from what little I know, but theoretically, if the law allowed for/required it, a hypothetical plane carrying people in an illegal manner could be compelled to divert and land.

If you think delays and cancellations are anoying, just wait until every airport ever has to plan for an unlimited number of unexpected pitstops from an unlimited number or airplanes in a given day. The Airlines would cease to exist before the end of the week.

Then I suppose the protocols around putting undocumented immigrants on planes will be tightened up to avoid large-scale emergency diversions.

Or more easily, just maintain the status quo and no "pitstops" when the plane is in the air.

I think it will be extraordinarily tough to prove they were deceived without some sort of contract or audio recording of exactly what they were told. All DeSantis has to say is that he gave them a brochure about Asylee benefits for if they get approved and that Boston is a major city in MA and a good place to head towards once they land.

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