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The Iranian Tehran Times released an alleged recording of the ADL freaking out about the generational divide in Israel support, as well as Iranian influence in anti-Israel advocacy groups. I do not recommend reading the article because it’s literally Iranian propaganda, but the audio recording is on their page here if you scroll down. Do you think this is legitimate or AI-generated? There’s nothing that struck me as obviously wrong with Greenblatt’s voice. It would be a weird thing to fake, because Iran shouldn’t want to promote the idea that they are behind Western anti-Israel advocacy.
If it’s legitimate, it’s insightful in four ways. The ADL does not believe that support for Israel is Left-Right but instead young-old. The ADL believes that some anti-Zionist organizations are taking their talking points from Iran (eg using the term “Zionist entities”). Iran has access to important meetings of ADL members. And lastly, the ADL has access to the inner circle memorandums of anti-Zionist groups.
And lastly, the ADL has access to the inner circle memorandums of anti-Zionist groups.
This doesn’t seem surprising, given that lots of anti-Zionist groups have crossover support from other very work groups which support the ADL in other contexts.
The ADL does not believe that support for Israel is Left-Right but instead young-old.
This is at least partly true, and given the ADL’s day job of ‘call republicans Nazis’, it’s hard to see how they wouldn’t believe it.
Iran has access to important meetings of ADL members.
For a modern intelligence service, this would probably be trivially easy- activists are unlikely to guard their computers like government officials. And Iran has very good reasons to keep an eye on major foreign policy advocacy groups(which the ADL is) in their politically unstable-yet-gridlocked archenemy.
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The Iranian Tehran Times released an alleged recording of the ADL freaking out about the generational divide in Israel support, as well as Iranian influence in anti-Israel advocacy groups. I do not recommend reading the article because it’s literally Iranian propaganda, but the audio recording is on their page here if you scroll down. Do you think this is legitimate or AI-generated? There’s nothing that struck me as obviously wrong with Greenblatt’s voice. It would be a weird thing to fake, because Iran shouldn’t want to promote the idea that they are behind Western anti-Israel advocacy.
If it’s legitimate, it’s insightful in four ways. The ADL does not believe that support for Israel is Left-Right but instead young-old. The ADL believes that some anti-Zionist organizations are taking their talking points from Iran (eg using the term “Zionist entities”). Iran has access to important meetings of ADL members. And lastly, the ADL has access to the inner circle memorandums of anti-Zionist groups.
This doesn’t seem surprising, given that lots of anti-Zionist groups have crossover support from other very work groups which support the ADL in other contexts.
This is at least partly true, and given the ADL’s day job of ‘call republicans Nazis’, it’s hard to see how they wouldn’t believe it.
For a modern intelligence service, this would probably be trivially easy- activists are unlikely to guard their computers like government officials. And Iran has very good reasons to keep an eye on major foreign policy advocacy groups(which the ADL is) in their politically unstable-yet-gridlocked archenemy.
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