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Small-Scale Question Sunday for December 3, 2023

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Is anyone else a successful person living like a NEET/incel? I was a nerdy kid growing up. Went to a technical university with few parties and studied Math. Realized that lectures were pretty boring and that there were better ones on youtube, so spent several years in a small apartment in front of a computer. To break the monotony, I made sure to exercise daily and got in great shape. I ended up working at a major tech company and did pretty well but had terrible work life balance. After inheriting a historic apartment in the downtown of a major city, I moved there even though I had no friends there. Three years later I have a good job, I am tall and in great shape and I live for almost free with views of a cathedral.

Yet my life is not really different from that of a NEET. I wake up at 9, sit in front of the computer for most of the day except for exercise and shopping. I have a limited social life and haven't had a girlfriend in years. My life wouldn't be that different if I was living in my parent's basement and gaming instead of working. The only tangible difference would be that I could order fewer cool things online, and I wouldn't have to answer emails.

I can't decide if I am a winning high status male or an incel loser, I seem to be at both ends of the spectrum at once.

You say your life isn’t so different to a NEET except in that you have a good job and money, but in the same way your life isn’t that much different to a successful normal person except in that you have no close social relationships; it’s not clear the latter comparison is less accurate than the former (and in fact I’d say it’s more so).

The ‘NEET problem’ is less about loneliness or friendlessness (there’s nothing in NEET to describe lack of friends, plenty of /r9k/cels have friends) and more about the fact that most people ought to be in education, employment or training if before retirement age. I know plenty of rich NEETs and while most are depressed they’re not burdens on society in the same way and they don’t face the risk of being poor forever the way non-rich NEETs do.

Whether you’re a high status male or an incel depends on whether or not you’re involuntarily celibate, I guess. By your description I’d say the answer is no.

Let's see. I assume the average NEET is someone who dropped out of / graduated from high school / college but didn't find a job for whatever reason. Also assuming that NEETs are a minority, most of your former classmates, who probably form most of the social circle you had, moved away and/or found jobs if you're a NEET, so even if they want to keep hanging out with you, they'll have far fewer opportunities for it, especially if they enter long-term relationships, which you're unlikely to do. They'll enter new social circles which don't include you. Also you'll obviously lack the social circle that usually comes with starting work at a company. So I'd say that it's mostly about friendlessness and loneliness.