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PaperclipPerfector  5mo ago (text post)   4264 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for December 10, 2023

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Does The Motte share data with google? Topics I've read about here (and only here) keep showing up on youtube.

Yup, it uses Google Tag Manager for analytics.

Does that not seem problematic to anyone else?

How?

Everything you read and write here being collected to your real name profile at Google and whoever else they share/sell it to?

If you're not blocking 3rd party cookies at this point, you're kind of asking for it.

I thought I was. I'm using ublock origin and privacy badger.

That should be more than enough. Even if you only blocked cross-site cookies while loading Google's scripts, that should still scramble their user-recognition ability. I don't know exactly what ublock does, but if you look up the GTM script in developer tools, with ublock on, you'll see there's a comment block with ublock's license at the top. Presumably they're intercepting Google's scripts, and replacing them with one that doesn't break the site's features, but disarms the analytics.

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