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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 26, 2022

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Berkley Law School's Jewish free zones is causing some stir. The student group also wants to ban Zionist speakers. I wonder how this will sit with progressive Jews, who themselves are quite often found heading pro-Palestine activism in the US. Now these bans are trotted out by progressives, not alt-righters. Accusations of anti-semitism likely won't find any purchase in the vogue that's disillusioned with Israel. And I'm not seeing any sign of American Jews tilting rightward anytime soon.

Sneer Club is gonna love this one!

[Edit: In hindsight it looks like I hit a sore spot of the moderators- Sneerclub. I don't know exactly what the full story is with Sneerclub but clearly there is more going on here.]

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I don't know why exactly this has happened, but ever since Amadan asked you to avoid culture war in the Fun thread you seem to have gone on a shitposting spree. There's this, of course, but there's also this and this and this.

Whatever the reason for this, knock it off; this is low-effort and antagonistic and largely valueless.

What do you have against Sneer Club? I don't consider Sneer club to be culture war, or rather, I believed reaching out to critics of the Motte and trying to understand their perspective was something to be aspired to.

"Write like everyone is reading and you want them to be included in the discussion"

I assumed this also applied to Sneerclub. Maybe not...?

To be honest, I'd prefer if you didnt track each and every comment that I make. If I have been posting more than usual it's only because my power is still out from hurricane IAN so i am guilty of doomscrolling more than usual.

If it bothers you so much, I'll leave and go join Sneerclub.

All the best.

  • -14

My first comment in your collection added to the total list of types of denialism.

The second one was asking how many people had been reported.

Can't find the third one.

Value is in the eye of the beholder. If you dislike my opinions, jokes, and questions I am open to hearing why but they weren't intended as shit posts, neither were they intended to be effort posts. Just obscure comments to a comment of a comment to a roundup of random threads.

It seems to me like you have for some reason developed a grudge.

For the most part my exchanges have been civil and mutually beneficial with the exception of the mods.

I have tried to be more careful about comments that fit into the definition of culture war in threads that forbid it, even foregoing a comment altogether if I am uncertain...

As for you first allegation of "shitposting," that was made in a thread that allowed culture war posts and it was merely an addition to a list in the previous comment.

Is it overly snarky? Probably.

But it's general ungrounded snark.not directed at anyone specifically in the conversation.

TLDR: What actual rule did I break? I'll wait.

What do you have against Sneer Club? I don't consider Sneer club to be culture war, or rather, I believed reaching out to critics of the Motte and trying to understand their perspective was something to be aspired to.

They have a tendency to attempt to brigade communities they disagree with. "Gonna love this one" suggests that you're going to go show it to them for the purpose of getting them angry at us.

My first comment in your collection added to the total list of types of denialism.

It's low-effort and antagonistic. The "muh" thing is commonly used to insult someone for having an opinion.

The second one was asking how many people had been reported.

Yes, it was. Also, antagonistic, given your history of complaining about moderation.

Can't find the third one.

We really do need to improve the permalink system. Try this link. But before you ask: you're complaining that people are downvoting you and throwing around accusations as to why. Low-effort and obnoxious.

To be honest, I'd prefer if you didnt track each and every comment that I make.

All your comments are tracked here as part of posting on this site. But I'm not specifically following you; you're just getting reported a lot. (To the point

Value is in the eye of the beholder.

This is true. But the moderators are tasked with preserving the tone of a community and removing people from the community when deserved. It doesn't matter if someone else somewhere would find value in it; the question is whether it fits what we're aiming for here, and the moderators are the judge of that.

TLDR: What actual rule did I break? I'll wait.

Low-effort participation, unnecessary antagonism, and this kind of defense starts leaning heavily into egregiously obnoxious.

We're not convinced by stuff like "oh I was just asking how many people had been reported". Yeah, you were, that's technically a true statement; but we're also capable of reading words and understanding tone, and either it was meant to come across like an attack, or you're terrible at understanding how your words come across. Either way, I'm requesting firmly that you stop coming across that way.

If it bothers you so much, I'll leave and go join Sneerclub.

If you can't figure out the intended tone of this community, yes, that would be preferable.

If you can, you're welcome to stay.