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Transnational Thursday for March 21, 2024

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Gigantic terrorist attack at a concert in Moscow in progress. At least 140 dead probably significantly higher. The concert hall is on fire and currently collapsing. Perpetrators unknown. Multiple shooters with AKs.

Edited to add: Looks like ISIS had claimed responsibility, Putin will be making a statement soon

Second Edit Reuters and Skynews are reporting a second attack at an emergency medical center at least 28 dead there. (Third edit: this seems to be an erroneous report based on a western news outlets mistranslation of a Russian news broadcast)

Fourth edit Putin and the FSB have made statements in the past hours claiming that the concert hall attackers were attempting to flee to Ukraine and had Ukrainian assistance in entering Russia to carry out the attack

Fifth Edit FSB alleges attackers were detained 85 miles from the Ukrainian border on a near a highway heading south. Attackers indicted in Russian court. They appear to have been tortured.

Sixth Edit FSB Director Alexander Bortnikov claims in official statement that the Ukraine, the United States and the United Kingdom were behind the attack

If someone is looking for overly bigbrained consipracy theories, then false flag by Russia is far more reasonable than Ukrainians wasting any resources at all on this.

I think "random jihadis did it, Putin's framing Ukraine because never waste an opportunity" is more likely than either; yeah, the capability exists to go do a false-flag, but it seems like a lot of effort for little benefit.

"random jihadis did it, Putin's framing Ukraine because never waste an opportunity" is more likely than either

oh definitely, that is one of more reasonable one (rather than overly bigbrained conspiracy theories).

If it would be intended to frame Ukraine then they would probably bring yellow-blue and red-black flags and so on.

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