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Seems to me like a lot of the current protests are taking the masks off and are just pro-intifada, pro-10/7, more voicefull in knowing he meaning “of the river from the sea”
I wrote off a lot of the initial protests and just dumb teens and college kids that did not understand the meaning of the words they used. They are increasingly now just suddenly like terrorists anti-semites to me.
Partly I like it. Seems like they f’d around and found out with the ideologies so many in their community promoted. But it does seem bad.
I wonder if it might be worth nuancing 'pro-Intifada', 'pro-Hamas', and so on?
It seems to me that many of these protests are, yes, genuinely opposed to the existence of the state of Israel, and supportive of 'decolonisation' interpreted to mean 'Israel should not exist and all Israeli Jews should leave and find homes in other countries, and if they refuse, they are legitimately the targets of lethal violence'. But the rhetoric and justification given for this is so radically different to the rhetoric and justification of either Hamas or any on-the-ground Palestinian resistance movements that I think the gulf is worthy of recognition. For the American campus protester, what Hamas or Palestinians actually want is close to irrelevant - their politics are not so much pro-Intifada or pro-Hamas they are anti-coloniser. Israel is a 'coloniser', which makes them the bad guys, which makes the opposite of Israel the good guys.
If nothing else, the campus protest ideology is not the ideology of the Hamas charter, or even the revised one. I don't think the protesters are reading that charter and unironically agreeing with it. (Though I grant that the revised, 2017 version seems calculated to appeal more to liberal Westerners.) Almost none of them are Muslims, for a start. It's something different, and must have its own origins and influences.
Presumably the far-left groups that have (along with diaspora groups) generally been mainly responsible for keeping the organized militant pro-Palestine movement going would feel most affinity towards groups like PFLP.
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I think there should be consequences for everyone who tried to say "nobody supports Hamas!"
They were wrong or they were lying. They shouldn't get to pretend they never said it.
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