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sockpuppet2
10hr ago
I defer to Your Modiness, of course, but, for future reference and in the interests of transparency, why did you flag this comment and not the one below it, linking to a blogpost about Penrosian qualia? The purposes of the threads seem to have become muddled, with even a mod saying he just posts in whichever thread is newest.
sockpuppet2
10hr ago
I'm still enjoying playing with LLMs. I'm using duck.ai, because I care about privacy (There are dozens of us! Dozens!) and I have a budget of $0 (There are billions of us! Billions!), which makes it easy to try different models. It's been interesting to see that GPT-5 mini isn't consistently better than 4o mini, but I haven't been systematic in comparing them. One funny "jailbreak" I found is that Claude Haiku 3.5 often (but not always?) refuses to give the pros and cons of 9x19 and 45acp for ccw, if it's the initial prompt in a chat, but will give the pros and cons of 5.56 and 7.62 for carbines, as an initial prompt, and then give the pros and cons of 9x19 and 45acp for ccw, if the request is a follow-up prompt.
ahobata
10hr ago
One piece of evidence I haven't seen anyone else post is this 20-minute-long pair of videos in which a young teenage girl, claiming (in my opinion, beyond any reasonable doubt; there is some supporting evidence) to be Lola and Ruby's friend Mayah, gives her side of the story. To summarize:
- The girls were on their way to meet some friends
- They passed Dumana, who was with a male friend at the time
- He called Lola "sexy"
- The girls began to shout at him, saying "Go away, she's 12"; he was undeterred and kept calling her sexy
- Mayah "dragged both girls away", hoping to diffuse the situation
- Dumana started to follow them (he had initially been walking in the other direction)
- The girls noticed and began shouting, "Why are you following us/Stop following us"/etc.
- Another man heard the commotion and asked the girls if they knew Dumana and his friend
- The man got up in Dumana's face; Dumana pushed him; he backed down; Dumana kept following as the girls shouted at him
- Dumana started to speak on the phone in a foreign language
- As Ruby was texting a friend, Dumana's sister came "flying around the corner" and attacked her from behind, with Dumana joining in ("punching and kicking her head")
- Mayah stepped away to call the police
- Lola surprised everyone by revealing she had weapons tucked under her waistband, to Mayah's disapproval (incidentally this contradicts the reading of "retrieve" in the GiveSendGo telling of the events that would have Lola running home in the middle of the confrontation)
- Dumana started to film
- Shortly after the end of the video, Lola fled the scene, to Mayah's disapproval
Condensing the rest for brevity:
- The police arrived quickly; some of them went off to find Lola and brought her back
- Mayah accompanied Ruby to the hospital
- (From what I gather, Mayah heard that) Dumana resisted as the police attempted to force him into a police car next to Lola's, by punching and kicking them, spitting on them repeatedly (so that they had to put a spit hood on him), and urinating in the car
- The last few minutes of the video are spent requesting that people please stop associating her name with Lola's face and actions, and pooh-poohing Lola for carrying weapons
So, that's the "she said". It's also worth noting that several times in the video, Mayah, with apparent contrition, "admits" to the girls possibly having exacerbated the situation with all their shouting. She also emphasizes that their belligerence was due to the outrageousness of Dumana's behavior and had nothing to do with race.
It's unclear what triggered the escalation to physical violence or by what dream logic Dumana's friend transformed into his sister. Still, I'm pretty confident that however much the girls might have raised the temperature of the situation, anyone in possession of all the facts would overwhelmingly blame Dumana and his party for what happened. As I already did before looking into it at all, based on what I believe to be better-calibrated priors than many people in this thread have.
(I speculate that some posters are trying to signal that their ability to noootice doesn't stop at race, that they're not to be confused with Uncle Roy. "Ruby's a hooker name, dude! Don't you know just how violent CHAV girls are?" "No, do you?" "No." This causes them to make epistemic mistakes that they wouldn't ordinarily make, like trusting the media and police's early reporting not to misleadingly downplay something a brown migrant did to a young girl, which we already know they did to some extent.)
I'm also open to bets.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
Why not move somewhere else? Why nuclear bombardment? Why do you ignore forms of defeat that do not result in Reds ruling you with a jackboot; for instance, a new norm of strong federalism where Blues have blue laws in blue places and reds have red laws in red places? There's also the part where Reds would survive Nuclear bombardment a whole lot better than blues, and would in fact likely rebuild; the threat here is asymmetric to your side's disadvantage.
If Blue Empire were eternal despite all we Reds could attempt, if we were crushed as badly as the Christians in 1600s Japan, I think I would flee elsewhere before resorting to nuking the country. No evil rules eternal; sooner or later, often sooner, it burns itself out.
I think you are making a similar mistake to Jim; you also lack the inner coldness-of-heart, are also carried away by the narrative glories. You lack temper to lose.
I've generally had good experiences replacing waifu computers with Linux. They pretty much never have a problem, though they just use webapps. The most they struggle with is file management since a lot more Linux apps will drop stuff in Home and they don't know to check there if Documents and Desktop don't have it.
Unfortunately it wasn't signed, so I had to turn off secure boot for it to load.
I would think you could just self-sign the printer driver and tell Linux to trust that signature but it might be too annoying.
SubstackNecron
11hr ago
As an aside, just because I often muse about this whenever he's brought up, is there a consensus estimate on how fucking old Jim is at this point? The absolute low ball has to be 60 but he could be like 80 and still doing this.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
Thank you.
I'm generally skeptical of the term "fascist" for people who don't choose it themselves, but don't particularly disagree. If the Jim Party somehow secured power where I live, I think fighting them would likewise be the morally correct option, and would have every confidence of victory.
SubstackNecron
11hr ago
that you lack imagination
Expound
SubstackNecron
11hr ago
If anyone can be called a fascist without hyperbole, it's Jim, and he operates on this level with this exact mindset. He does not see right and wrong, only will to power. I find it satisfying that his ideological forbearers were defeated in the way that they were.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
But, if I’m reading you correctly, ultimately your end goal is to form a regional society of people who share your moral intuitions.
Sure, or enough of them to limit the scope and scale of political conflict to something survivable.
If Blacks and Browns refuse to relinquish Blueness, or at any rate refuse to become sufficiently compatible with your Redness, doesn’t that mean you will either have to quell them or expel them?
If they can't secure blue power by winning a vote, and they can't compromise law enforcement, why do they need to be either quelled or expelled? If they are content to live as a political minority, well and good. if they are not content, they can move somewhere that seems more congenial.
What solutions were you envisaging?
Blue Power comes from several sources, among them political machines, long-term control of the knowledge production and dissemination apparatus, entrenched bureaucracy, and entrenched legal precedent. The foundations of most of these sources are visibly decaying. Without them, I do not think Blue Tribe is capable of the sociopolitical closure they threaten. Without that threat, the geographical sortition that has been ongoing for well-over a decade should make it possible to simply allow them to stew in their own shitholes, far away from me. and if not, the sword will remain a viable option for the foreseeable future.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
Speak plainly, please. What is the relevance to the present discussion?
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
Does that make me an extremist as well? If so, which kind?
Yes, it makes you a Blue Tribe extremist. It also means, in my opinion, that you lack imagination.
VoxelVexillologist
Multidimensional Radical Centrist
11hr ago
I think ISIS went a bit similarly: the promise of a new caliphate brought out a big chunk of violent fanatics that otherwise would have been terrorists hiding from view, gave faith that they would win battles in a traditional type war with God on their side, and pitted them against a number of local powers backed up by Western air and ground forces. They lost.
I'm not conspiracy minded, but it would at least be an interesting one that this was done deliberately as a honey pot, but I have zero evidence of this. I also can't speak to it's long-term effects on the region --- how many of those dead IS fighters would have fought with the Houthis, Hezbollah, or Hamas in recent conflicts?
Throwaway05
11hr ago
Someone probably already told you this or you put it together yourself, but just in case -
Physician notes are usually organized in the "SOAP" fashion (subjective, objective, assessment, plan) for most purposes the A/P is all that matters so you can usually scroll down to the A/P (and some EMRs will directly facilitate this). Anything materially valuable should be recapped in that spot "...given patient's reports of acute pain, profound anorexia and reported history of diverticular disease as well as supra pubic tenderness suspect episode of diverticulitis..."
Lots of EMRs will also let you filter out the copy forward /auto filler to make things easier to read and identify any S/O that actually has value.
Unfortunately the EMR help won't help if you are getting PDF print outs.
I also support the movement to reformat the notes to APSO format to shove the useless shit to the bottom. Some places do that by default.
If you are getting a complete record I hope they aren't sending you all the bullshit nursing notes.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
Agreed. But I think many conservatives do not want a bloodless solution. They want to overcome liberalism's tolerance of mediocrity and comfort. They want a return of martial values and spirit. They're Occidentalists, seeing bourgeois values as soft and unworthy of emulation.
Can you give some examples of these "conservatives" of which you speak?
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
11hr ago
So then a progressive effort to scrap that, you'd just be indifferent? Waste of time to try and do anything about it?
No. You use the progressive efforts to coordinate united opposition from your own tribe. Such opposition has, in the past, involved both voting and passing laws in some cases, and shooting federal agents and bombing federal buildings in other cases. What you cannot do is assume that "playing by the rules" is the sum of valid responses, because "rules" do not work the way the "play by the rules" narrative assumes they do.
Blue efforts to kill the second amendment de jure or de facto should be resisted, because even as a corpse the second amendment is a powerful rally point. But at the same time, one must remember that the second amendment, alive or dead, was only ever a tool, and the aim that tool was designed for must be pursued regardless, within or without the law as may be necessary.
SubstackNecron
11hr ago
I am on record that large-scale, open-ended political violence is a preferable outcome to the political outcomes Blue Tribe appears to me to be aiming for, and further that I believe Red Tribe can and will decisively win such a fight.
I am curious, I disagree and think civil war is very unlikely, but I think that if this does happen and if defeat were imminent, unleashing a nuclear holocaust on the US and cleansing it would be preferable to the red tribe being allowed to conquer and rule over the ruin of my Northeast. Does that make me an extremist as well? If so, which kind?
Corvos
11hr ago
I believe that the problem is Blues; if it were possible to coordinate with Blacks and Browns against them, that would be an entirely acceptable outcome. Browns and Blacks are a problem to the degree they empower Blues; if blue power is broken, disputes with blacks and browns are solvable in any number of ways.
But, if I’m reading you correctly, ultimately your end goal is to form a regional society of people who share your moral intuitions. If Blacks and Browns refuse to relinquish Blueness, or at any rate refuse to become sufficiently compatible with your Redness, doesn’t that mean you will either have to quell them or expel them? And if so, isn’t TDJ just skipping the middle steps?
What solutions were you envisaging?
SubstackNecron
11hr ago
"Evil" and "bad" are meaningless unless one shares values-coherence with the people with one communicates
One of the most poetic things to ever happen is that the great fascist powers were met in their own framework by their enemies and crushed through strength of arms, thus in addition to destroying there power and killing many of them, also defeating them ideologically in the only way that really mattered as far as they were concerned.
Pongalh
11hr ago
Creating a polity where Blues hold no sway, and hence browns and blacks are not an appreciable problem. encouraging blacks and browns committed to blueness to leave for blue areas seems like a pretty easy and bloodless solution.
Agreed. But I think many conservatives do not want a bloodless solution. They want to overcome liberalism's tolerance of mediocrity and comfort. They want a return of martial values and spirit. They're Occidentalists, seeing bourgeois values as soft and unworthy of emulation.
SubstackNecron
11hr ago
The most notable thing about him when the shock value wears off is the depth and breadth of his hatred. The man has been railing nonstop about how women should be reduced to sexual chattel and raped by their husbands, along with how all non-white people in the west should be slaughtered for the better part of 30 years now. He was, when I was much younger, a pretty key part in me deciding who my ideological enemies would be though so I guess there is that.
Pongalh
11hr ago
and the second amendment does not protect my right to keep and bear arms.
So then a progressive effort to scrap that, you'd just be indifferent? Waste of time to try and do anything about it?
Responding to the edits:
It sounds like you want to go back to the 90s; Jim wants to go back to...I don't know, the 16th century and also kill a lot of people in the process.
"Where did things go wrong" is an important element of social critique. My answer is that things went wrong with the Enlightenment, which was not the triumph of rationality over superstition, but rather the opposite. That's a long and involved conversation, though.
I do not think my model is accurately summarized as "go back to the 1600s", more along the lines of "stop making a simple (but for some highly lucrative) mistake we made in the 1600s and have been continuously making ever since." This would be a better summary:
The empiricism, materialism, skepticism and rationality were never rigorous in any population-level sense. Superstition and ignorance changed their masks, and nothing more. Now that bedazzling scientific advancements are slowing down and we have had a moment to collect ourselves, a modest amount of actual skepticism and curiosity and a memory broader than the last fifteen minutes is sufficient to tear the whole rotten edifice wide open.
Skepticism, rationality and empiricism, and even instrumental materialism, do not mean believing that studies show.
In any case, I do not wish to "go back to the 90s". Free speech and human rights are a spook, "rule of law" is doomed because no set of rules can ever constrain human will. Values-coherence is a prerequisite for the formation and maintenance of a functional society; the aim is to achieve values-coherence with others, band together for mutual benefit and defense, and prevent rule by those who hate you.
As with all these conversations between "normie" right-wingers and people like Jim, the distinguishing factor is race. Race is of paramount importance, and by extension immigration and demographics are the only issues that matter.
That is certainly one point of contention. Jim and similar "right wingers" believe that the problem is blacks and browns, and wish that Reds and Blues could coordinate against them. I believe that the problem is Blues; if it were possible to coordinate with Blacks and Browns against them, that would be an entirely acceptable outcome. Browns and Blacks are a problem to the degree they empower Blues; if blue power is broken, disputes with blacks and browns are solvable in any number of ways.
Depends on what outcomes you're referring to.
Blue Tribe's goal is sociopolitical closure, to shut anyone who disagrees with them out of the economy, the political arena, and to the greatest extent possible society itself. In the classic formulation, they aim to make peaceful revolution impossible, and to the extent that they succeed they make violent revolution inevitable. The part people have missed, though, is the degree to which they have not succeeded in making peaceful revolution impossible.
Too broad of a statement to analyze, need specifics. Aren't these things that Blue Tribe blame the Red Tribe for as well?
Sure, and they're occasionally correct, after a fashion. But let's put it bluntly: the first amendment does not protect my speech, and the second amendment does not protect my right to keep and bear arms. What protects my rights is my ability to coordinate action among those who share sufficient values with me to be allies. There is no way to share power long-term with those who do not meet this basic criterion.
I think you misunderstand the far-right position. Jim thinks we're past the point of no return because 50% of newborns are non-white. What's your political solution to that?
Creating a polity where Blues hold no sway, and hence browns and blacks are not an appreciable problem. encouraging blacks and browns committed to blueness to leave for blue areas seems like a pretty easy and bloodless solution. to the extent that this is not possible, it is because Blues still have too much power, which is again a problem I think we are in the process of solving.
No, you're just operating from totally different first principles.
Indeed we are. His are wrong and foolishly so.
jkf
12hr ago
Your stance is that spitting on the ground in front of another man is inherently aggressive and instigatory?
I mean, kind of? Not sure if it's obsolete or some regional deal, but I thought it was pretty universal & ancient that looking a guy in the eye (esp. when trash talk is going on), then spitting off to the side is a gesture of contempt at best, and essentially fighting 'words' in most cases?
See, um -- Darwin (!?), apparently: (thanks Google!)
Spitting seems an almost universal sign of contempt or disgust; and spitting obviously represents the rejection of anything offensive from the mouth. Shakspeare makes the Duke of Norfolk say, “I spit at him—call him a slanderous coward and a villain.” So, again, Falstaff says, “Tell thee what, Hal,—if I tell thee a lie, spit in my face.” Leichhardt remarks that the Australians “interrupted their speeches by spitting, and uttering a noise like pooh! pooh! apparently expressive of their disgust.” And Captain Burton speaks of certain negroes “spitting with disgust upon the ground.” Captain Speedy informs me that this is likewise the case with the Abyssinians. Mr. Geach says that with the Malays of Malacca the expression of disgust “answers to spitting from the mouth;” and with the Fuegians, according to Mr. Bridges “to spit at one is the highest mark of contempt.”
Granted most of his quotes do involve people spitting at others -- which is clearly even more aggressive -- but I personally would not spit to the side while talking to somebody unless I were looking for a fight.
I just wish we could turn back the clock and have all desktops run Windows 7... That was the peak of personal computing.
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