Absoluto
2yr ago
Nice post but I protest the use of “amn’t”. Yes I see why it makes sense but I still hate coming across it. I acknowledge you may discard this opinion.
Absoluto
2yr ago
He is taking another approach to convince you of his previous post’s thesis
What are the elements of rape X: that are attractive in and Y: that are negative that cause people to “want something but not the consequences of it”. For ice cream it’s “tastes good” and “makes you fat”. What is is about rape that fantasizers actually want? Some people say it’s just the sex and others seem to think the coercion is the part that is desired.
Absoluto
2yr ago
Thanks for the effortful response,
A rape fantasy enables someone to play around with the idea of being forced to do something they might want to do
You know what else enables someone to play around with the idea of doing something they can’t do in reality? FANTASY! If a person wants to imagine having a particular sexual experience they can just do so in the privacy of their minds, there’s no need to additionally imagine themself forced. I can’t help but feel the coercive nature is not merely instrumental but rather the point of these fantasies.
What tribute to the power of the unconscious that in the day of the internet, of pornographic videos, not to mention of the erotic assaults on television, that with all this seeming permission, there is still a nay-saying voice that requires answering before we can reach orgasm.
Yeah I suppose “nay-saying voice” is a theory, but it’s somewhat unconvincing as the author inflates the power of the unconscious for every argument against it which she lists there.
I suppose knowing what these fantasies look like would be helpful. Do the women fantasize about special scenarios where the negative affects for some reason don’t exist? Because if a woman fantasizes about potentially being impregnated by a stranger, she is choosing to imagine a nightmarish scenario! I saw someone somewhere else here mention that they are typically handsome men they want to have sex with anyway, which would explain a lot… but something tells me women don’t say “I fantasize about rape” to researchers just so they dont seem like the kind of girl who enjoys sexual fantasies too much or something.
Absoluto
2yr ago
Ok you’ve as vaguely as possible gestured towards what Y is, but what about the X and if you’re feeling brave Y but more specifically? Up thread someone used “heroic John Wick power fantasy” but X and Y don’t seem to be the same.
Absoluto
2yr ago
So what is the “want X despite the real life consequence Y” for the fantasy of rape?
Absoluto
2yr ago
That’s definitely the imposed perception, especially given the “R”, in TERF, but I think it’s a strategic move to paint any non-conservative trans-skeptic woman as merely sex negative, extreme, or reacting to trauma from cis-males.
Absoluto
2yr ago
I can absolutely notice the higher intellect of most posters here than me, and I think many lurkers are in the same boat.
Absoluto
2yr ago
Ok so you would be totally happy if Ukrainians demolished the whole city and port alongside the statue?
This sensation peaked for me on the B&R podcast interview when asked if she recognizes how weird her twitter poll questions are. She didn’t say she doesn’t know why her questions are weird, she didn’t assert the questions shouldnt be weird, she denied that she was aware they are weird(Even Jesse uncharacteristically commented on this later, finding this this too much). Smells too much like she’s wearing Spergface and not doing a great job at it.
Absoluto
2yr ago
Obligatory, rest in peace
Absoluto
2yr ago
I highly doubt Poland is not pursuing nukes because they’re uninterested. Why do you think Israel pretends to not have nukes?
If Poland is skeptical that their allies will defend them from Russia, why should they hope that Russia will refrain from nuking them? What good are tanks when one faces complete destruction?
Ask Ukraine?
Absoluto
2yr ago
Spend more than a few seconds considering what it means to have been burnt by allies before. Poland does not have the same eternal confidence in NATO that you do, and in terms of feeling existentially threatened as a Nation they fall closer to Israel/Jews than they do the average nation. Poles are a deeply skeptical and cynical people and I still don’t think any of them have the same theory about why the army is expanding now. Understand that these people’s relation to history is one of dreaming their past leaders armed themselves to the teeth in weapons and xenophobia while cleaning the toilets of the nations who at worst invaded them and best abandoned them.
Absoluto
2yr ago
“Musk needs government subsidies for his companies” is not sufficient to assume “the establishment has direct control over Musk’s adventures in twitter”. This strikes me as conspiratorial thinking. There are plenty of ways that the Musk-establishment relationship could be coloured without him being an enthusiastic and willing member, or otherwise a directly and forcibly controlled party.
Absoluto
2yr ago
I want Trump to have his twitter back because I like jokes, and Trump is a very funny man.
Absoluto
2yr ago
It’s not a fallacy because I assume the content of his argument is not the content of your argument. I’m unable to comment on what he wrote. I have told you what I take issue with in your argument and it isn’t the part where you say Bertrand Russel said it too.
Based on his reputation and without reading what he wrote, no I don’t think he was being dishonest. I assume he was doing some weird philosophy and never at any moment entertained the possibility that meat and potatoes real life counting was hanging in jeopardy. I don’t think he was going around and saying “you should worry about reality and trusting your lying eyes because of some fancy math that you probably don’t need and doesn’t apply to counting physical objects”
Absoluto
2yr ago
there is a difference between “you should have lingering doubt in the face of certainty that you know what exactly is trying to be communicated” and “you should have doubt about things you absolutely know are true”.
“I purposefully did not mention I was thinking about modulo math and let you assume I meant the common notion of + “ doesn’t really convince me of anything except that people disagree about what it means to be dishonest.
Absoluto
2yr ago
I don’t know if I’d call this “extreme”, because she was drunk. People get into drunken altercations with this amount of heat all the time, and I don’t expect humans to remember to not say that one special word while their inhibitions against violence melt away. It’s not as if this event led to the discovery of a secret KKK membership that she had been holding while sober.
I don’t think these even deserves news coverage honestly.
Alright, I respect that
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