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				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That's fair.  The action scenes that were in 3rd person looked fine to me.  Maybe it was just the face reveal that looked off.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Sorry, my comment was sloppy.  You're right about the MAP thing.  I didn't mean that there was literally no possible steelman, I meant that there was no steelman that would be convincing to the mass of normies since aversion to sex with children runs too deep for the vast majority of people.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I'm actually quite sympathetic to the people responding to me.  I really dislike all the people who smear anything cute, sexy, or childish as "pedophilia!" and I do strongly agree that the word is intentionally and systematically abused to smear what are basically normal healthy instincts for heterosexual men, namely attraction to post-pubescent women.


I actually wouldn't have posted my opinion outside the Motte since I don't want to aid and abet that crowd.  I was hoping to share my view here merely as a data point, not as an implied condemnation of the game or anyone's taste.




many people aren't really seeing what you are seeing




I actually wonder about that -- maybe so, or maybe they're trying to prevent a weakman from becoming a superweapon.  If it's the latter, I understand.




I'm around tons of basic bitch women all the time, they've all obtained the download and find everything bad and to be truly "pedophilia,"




I'll take your word for it since I'm not around those sorts of people much these days.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Most people would still broadly agree that you shouldn't be a dick to women, even though hair-trigger ideological enforcement is mostly gone.




Sure, but I think that the sort of actual unambiguous sexism that used to be roundly condemned now draws less outrage than it used to.  I'm predicting that desoite attempts to abuse the term "pedophilia" to smear men who like women in their 20s, there is a floor on how much the power of the word can erode since the central examples of pedophilia are just too abhorrent for the vast majority of people, unlike racism or sexism.




Dawg, I live in a mostly Asian suburb and I'd say they were roughly 40% of my classmates in school, I've never seen a 7yo look like that.




Dawg, I have also spent a little time around Asian people I disagree. Yes, Asian children look different than the apparent fantasy-Caucasian main character front he video, but the facial age is quite clear to me.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That's not what I said.  If we see Woke 2.0 then sure, I wouldn't be surprised if wokescolds managed to force some institution to pass "anti-pedophilia" codes of conduct or whatever that protect 29 year old women from "predatory" 35 year old me.  But I don't think the vast majority of normal people bought into "system racism" when Woke 1.0 was at its peak, and the opinions of normal people are what the original comment was about.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Your lines may not match what the woke feel is appropriate for instance, nevertheless they've had a lot of success at labeling the first item pedophilia.




That's what I was asking -- have they really? Does anyone actually care what those people think?




With respect to the matter at hand - I know lots of Asians and Asian enjoyers who are like "yeah this looks normal" even if you don't feel that way




There's really nothing I can do here but take your word for it, so okay.  FWIW I don't care if other people enjoy the character, more power to them.  Just looks like like my elementary school kids' classmates to me, personally.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I actually feel the same way you do, I quit 4chan because it just became nastiness and wasn't even funny, just the same racial insults and tired jokes repeated ad nauseam.  I admit I didn't just roll my eyes and keep scrolling, I left.  But I think the difference is that I didn't feel righteous outrage at the extreme racism, I just thought it was distasteful and stupid.  I imagine it might have been the same for you, if you've grown up online.  Holocaust jokes are dumb and mean-spirited but probably not particularly shocking.  You close the browser and immediately move in.


In constrast, I don't think I would ever have such a low key reaction to actual pre-pubescent pedophilia.  Even SFW sexualized depiction of pre-pubescent children are extreme creepy and disturbing to me, and I don't think I'm unusual in reactiomng that way.  Theoretically you could imagine a society where everyone has been desensitized to it, but we're nowhere near that and a lot would have to change first.  Even here in Japan, the vast majority of people find the sexualization of children to be really creepy and beyond the pale despite what "Weird Japan!" clickbait websites claim.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Responded here. I'm aware of the neoteny but I think the character in the video looks like a child.  It's on a different level than stylized anime or looking younger than white people.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I'm getting a lot of replies in this vein, but AFAIK the "she was 29 you sick fuck!" crowd is mostly deranged internet leftists?  Is anyone getting cancelled for "pedophilia" for dating a woman over 18? There's a lot of screeching online about it, but it reminds me of "patriarchy" or "shitlords" or whatever.  I agree that some people try to make pedophilia mean "age gap," but I don't think the vast majority of people buy it at all.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I understood your point.  I think what I was trying to say was that "a projection of what european women would look like if they were as neotenous as asian women + some minor other asian characteristics often considered attractive" is not what we're seeing in the linked video.  I think that a better example would be sexy female anime characters or K-pop stars with heavy plastic surgery.  Both are highly stylized and a bit uncanny, but IMO they both usually look like adult or at least teenage women (1,000 year old loli dragons aside).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That's true, but the point I was trying to make in my comment was that while "racism" and "sexism" might erode completely, the central examples of "pedophilia" are abhorrent enough that the accusation will never fully lose its power and be met only with eyerolls as OP suggested.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don't know anyone IRL who thinks having sex with a 17 year old (bailey) is the same as having sex with a 7 year old (motte).  It's a convenient rhetorical cudgel, so people pretend they believe that, but I'm pretty sure almost nobody really believes it.  If you called someone who had sex with a high school senior a pedo, most people would roll their eyes; if you called someone who had sex with a 7 year old a pedo people would agree and be out for blood.  They bailey might erode, but the motte is not going anywhere.


Contrast that with "racist." Getting called a racist in the 90s was a serious allegation and could make you radioactive even if the underlying charge was ridiculous.  But now both frivolous accusations (bailey) AND substantive allegations (motte) are drawing eye rolls.  Soon the word racist will be completely powerless, and even actual racial supremacists and chauvinists will be able to mostly shrug it off if they act civil enough.  Not so with "pedophile." That one's going to stick around.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.  I've lived in Asia for over a decade total, I've taught a dozens of asian children ages 3-12 over the span of several years, and I'm married to an Asian woman.  Asian people are indeed more neotenous, but not to the degree that the character in the linked video would be mistaken for a teen or young adult.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
There is no "steelman" for pedophilia, unlike for racism (freedom of association), sexism (traditional gender roles), and homophobia (traditional sexual morality).  There's no virtuous principle or sympathetic situation that causes people to think "hmm, maybe sex with kids isn't so black and white."  So I expect the taboo to hold indefinitely barring a radical shift in the legal and social understanding of what childhood is and what children are.


As for the sequel's main character -- look, I grew up on early chan imageboards and the unfiltered early 2000s internet so I have a pretty high tolerance and probably a quite warped sense of what's within the bounds of good taste -- but even in my opinion, that's a 7 year old's face on a young woman's body.  That's bad enough, but all the exploitative and opportunistic camera angels make it uncanny and perverse. I probably wouldn't play it unless they aged her up at least to adolescence.


EDIT: I'm not talking about the SJW version of "pedophilia" meaning attraction to women under 30.  And yes I'm aware that people online like to motte and bailey the term in bad faith. I don't have any problem with people playing this or making this game, just saying it's not for me.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I assume the research, compilation, and release of the report was handled by party strategists rather than Lowe personally, but I'm also not sure how much he was involved.  It was release right before the Makerfield by-election so that suggests at least some strategic thinking.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
My charitable interpretation is that the 250,000 might have been a Trumpian overstatement designed to get the establishment media to issue a still-damning correction (actually it was "only" 25,000!) which would fail to deflate the anger and makes the media look out-of-touch.  But that depends on the media fumbling the ball.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
As a fellow Mottizen, I agree with you, but the way this correction will be used by most normies is "the number is fake and can be dismissed (and by association, so can everything else in the report)."  We are all high decoupling autists here but most people can't hold "it was not nearly as bad as they say, but also it's an absolute outrage and something must be done" in their head at the same time.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 22, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The fixation on the 250,000 is a distraction tactic.  The conclusion of the article says that there were "only" 13,500 rapes of underage girls over a nearly 20 year period by foreigners who were apparently often motivated by religious and ethnic hatred; even so, that is still absolutely disgusting and horrifying.  The article also says that grooming gangs are "extremely rare" because um ackchually lot of abuse doesn't actually involve "human trafficking" or <insert NGOspeak terminology here> which are apparently necessary prerequisites to taking these massive crimes seriously.  The left wants to engage in dishonest nitpicking about terminology and numbers so that attention is diverted towards the credibility of the report writers and pedantic arguments over technical definitions, while the right wants to point at the child rapes and shout about how the exact facts don't matter, look how awful all of this is!  It's inverse holocaust revisionism: "Actually it was only 1 million Jews killed and technically they weren't gassed and why were there swimming pools and hospitals in the camps and and and..." while the other side is pointing and screaming at the large piles of corpses.


I don't think there's really any dialogue to be had about this, it's just another cobblestone on the road towards civil conflict.


EDIT: Fixed typos and terrible writing


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 15, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Counter-anecdote: My wife and I live on a single salary and our 4 children sleep in the same room together.  We are a respectable middle class family.  We are surrounded by a mix of the people @HereAndGone2 describes: 1-2 child striver families as well as 2-3 child "laid back" families.  The striver mindset is a choice, and AFAICT it is indeed rooted in parental ego. Plenty of loving parents raise their kids without the anxiety of helicopter or tiger parenting.


Personally, I have decided to opt out of the striver rat race as I think it is spiritually and mentally destructive, and I'm also not sure what sort of white collar work or which credentials will matter in 20 years anyway. I would rather my kid be a well adjusted mechanic or UPS driver who relates to people and culture normally instead of a status- and achievement obsessed quasi-human with an Ivy league diploma. I do have visceral worries about my children's wellbeing, but they're more about whether they're developing a healthy conscience and positive personality traits like conscientiousness.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The fallacy is "some Chinese people are robbers = Chinese are robbers"




"Some Jan 6 Electoral Justice Protestors tussled with cops = we can round all Jan 6 protestors off to 'cop beaters'"


Looks like I understand it just fine.




The Republican senators stood up to this because they don't want to award money specifically to cop beaters




What do you base this on? Taking politicians' sound bites at face value?   Do you also believe congressmen when they say that the American Freedom Panopticon Surveillance Bill is meant to "keep our children safe?"


Anyway, I'm still curious to know what sort of discussion you hoped to start with your OP.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don't think this works, because I think that many people reconcile such cognitive dissonance by never admitting a single crack in the facade. Antiracism, like any religious/ideological belief with mountains of apparent evidence against it, starts to fall apart as soon as you allow a single crack in the facade. I'm not singling out leftists here, honestly, this is a pretty common human trait.  It's epistemically sustainable to close your eyes and cover your ears and say "LALALA I'M NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU BIGOTS/SINNERS/COMMUNISTS" while it's extremely uncomfortable for most people to hold nuanced or qualified versions of deeply held moral beliefs.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I truly think this cannot happen until Boomers and maybe part of Gen X dies of old age or is disenfranchised. Just as in America they still seem to think the country is 97% white and that we need to "level the playing field" and that lynchings and the Holocaust are right around the corner if we ever turn the ratchet backwards one click.  They were so successfully propagandized that they literally cannot believe their own eyes, I see this with my own parents who have moved from right to far right over the last decade, but for whom race is still a third rail and the dream of 90s colorblind racism is still very much alive.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Does anyone have any insight into how white male British cops sleep at night?  I don't mean that rhetorically.  It's become almost cartoonish at this point, you are literally siding with a colonial overlord to oppress and maliciously neglect people who look, talk, and act like you, your family, your parents, your brother and sister, while protecting people who can't even speak English properly, looking nothing like you, and openly express contempt for people like you, your country, your history, your national symbols, etc.  How does that cognitive dissonance not drive a man mad?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Interesting showcase of how many republican congressman haven't completely neutered themselves for the executive yet




Well, you can only cut 'em off once, and these senators already gelded themselves long ago to remain in the good graces of the left.  Not that interesting at all.  And "cop beaters" sound an awful lot like Chinese Robbers.  And honestly after all the NGO networks came to light, I'm mostly indifferent towards graft if it's going to my political allies or fellow travellers.  The money likely  will be stolen, it's just a question of whose side is strengthened by the theft.


If you will allow me a meta-question -- what was your intention with this post?  Heavily spun partisan pro-MAGA screeds are boring to read, but so is this triumphalist leftist sneering.  "Good to see at least some republicans aren't total CUCKS who want to steal TAXPAYER MONEY and give it to COP BEATERS" is a Twitter tier opinion.  I guess you will get a bunch of >(you)s but that sort of violates the spirit of this place.  Why not post some substantive analysis about why you think these Republicans still aren't fully sold on MAGA?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			
			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of May 18, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Yes, but it used to be that passivity and deference was rewarded with social status, a good enough wage, and company perks. You could do this things and not feel like a loser, you were just playing the game.  These days, nobody really believes that they'll get any of those benefits, but superiors still demand respect and passivity (after all, it their turn now, they earned the right!) and so the game feels very rigged.  But what are you going to do, found a company? Good luck finding the capital, if you have your own money good luck trying to get licensed, follow regulations, and muscle your way in amongst the established business who have probably helped write the national or local regulations your new business will be subjected to.  Better just to take the entry level salaryman job and live for the weekend.


The widespread availability of various forms of prostitution is quite interesting. A 2024 study says that 47% of Japanese men have used prostitutes (compared to 20% in the Netherlands) and of that number 64% were married.  But I'm not sure whether that's a cause or a symptom of the passivity.