Botond173
27d ago
or modern culture of circus and spectacle just lacks the seriousness necessary to create martyrs?
What about George Floyd though?
Botond173
27d ago
Why do you think such a generational opportunity existed? It's not like a local version of Pinochet or Franco is in power.
Botond173
27d ago
I guess what she really meant to say is that they are conditioned to put out, which is largely true - innate sexual preferences do not change, after all, but social norms regarding sexuality do from time to time. I imagine her complaint isn't that normal guys prefer thicc women over fat or skinny women, it's that current society has normalized casual sex.
Botond173
27d ago
If you say teenage sexual relationships should be decriminalized, people will probably ask you why. What will you reply then?
Botond173
27d ago
Isn't this a phenomenon mostly concentrated in the suburban middle-class who mostly lead a sheltered existence? The same demographic that was known for its comical levels of prudery in the 19th Century? I'd guess most normal working-class fathers can grok that their teenaged daughters are sexual beings who want to and will get boned.
Botond173
27d ago
Thanks. I see that this is not the original source though, and neither is this probably the first or even the sole version. I distinctly remember coming across this comment somewhere on a redpill-themed subreddit; I forgot to save the URL though. I'm fairly sure it was actually the original. I remember it did include a cringey and somewhat hilarious explicit description of the daughter's tight vag being penetrated for the first time.
Botond173
27d ago
On an unrelated note, naming a statute after a tragedy involving suicide, murder and treachery is probably not a good PR move.
Botond173
27d ago
I'm no sociologist but I'm guessing that social norms regarding this are more or less shared throughout the West, in towns both big and small. That is, when two teenagers are in a sexual relationship but both are discrete about it and are otherwise not seen as anti-social delinquents, their social circle quietly tolerates it.
Botond173
27d ago
I'd argue it's widely seen as unwise for the simple reason that teenagers aren't assumed to reliably practice birth control.
Botond173
28d ago
So how is it feasible in your view to not sound like a pedo but at the same time describe the simple anthropological reality that girls sexually mature earlier than boys?
Botond173
28d ago
I'd say the main drawback is that the only way to become a member of such a subculture is to be born into it. They don't accept outsiders. And if you try starting your own sect, people will just laugh at you.
Botond173
28d ago
Is the impact little because young women generally don't marry anyway these days or because normal people don't care about age gaps in their daily lives at all? Or are you of the view that no online phenomenon has any discernible effect on the daily lives of normies?
Botond173
28d ago
I remember seeing a somewhat recent short documentary series on everyday life in the Third Reich which was based on first person accounts and described the same phenomenon among Hitler Youth groups during the Nuremberg rallies, with a large number of girls, even a majority of certain regional female groups, getting pregnant. I’m assuming this description and the horror stories you mentioned originate from the same accounts.
The deciding factor in all of this was that while the Party was openly promoting high birthrates and had little scruples about girls and young women getting pregnant outside of marriage (under the assumption that they were to get married immediately afterwards), the majority of the German people, regardless of their level of sympathy for Nazi ideology, was still influenced by Christian norms at this period to such an extent that they strongly objected to such sexual libertinism. The Party leaders were careful enough to take note of such complaints and thus decided to have male and female Hitler Youth groups camping at great distances from each other during the annual Nuremberg rallies from 1936. (Or so the documentary claimed.)
Botond173
28d ago
but when confronted he immediately backed down
So lame. That's like the most rookie political mistake in the book.
Botond173
28d ago
On a somewhat related note, I remember reading one of Steve Sailer’s posts ages ago in which he made a claim that was only tangentially related to his main argument that the Democrats’ best chance of winning the presidency is by fielding as a candidate an older African American man with a military background who’s from a working class or lower-middle class background and is center-left. If we accept this as valid I guess it means that the main disadvantage Platner has in this case is that he’s white.
I'd also mention that in other similar situations the normie woke-adjacent line of thought is usually that people mourn in all sorts of different ways, you don't know what they're going through, it's petty and cruel to openly mock and criticize their attitude etc.
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