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Social Dominance Orientation is the root of all kinds of evil.

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Social Dominance Orientation is the root of all kinds of evil.

				
				
				

				

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				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I thought that police traditionally used blue for this very reason? It's a color that conveys the right mix of authority and calm.




I read somewhere that it descends from the Metropolitan Police in London, because Sir Robert Peel wanted to distinguish them from the Army, whose uniforms at the time were red.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Certainly! I hope you are feeling better, and I appreciate that we can discuss these things civilly even if we disagree.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


repeated traffic violations might though




Maybe ICE should take the beam out of their own eye first, before they worry about the motes in immigrants' eyes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 26, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Jill would yell "shame," and this has caught on enough that it could be audible on some news reports.




Are they ringing bells?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Loving the sinner is calling them to repent and allowing them the benefit of the natural consequences of their sin.




What if the 'natural consequences of their sin' make them less likely to repent?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


You could always do "A Negro living in . . . "




My point was that the black man's ancestors have lived there as long as his white neighbour's ancestors have; thus if his familial tenure is insufficient to make him a '_____ man', then his white neighbour would be 'An Englishman living in _____'.




Things were a lot simpler back in my formative years




...and you're upset that someone moved your cheese?




I will always feel in my heart that third-world immigrants remain foreigners no matter how long they've lived here.




What about first-world immigrants? If someone was born in London, will he always be British to you?




Additionally, my post was partly a reaction to a new mortal sin among the left: mentioning someone's ethnicity






I guarantee you that if this had happened in 1990, the account would have started, "So I met this black woman with a foreign accent, and . . . "




My understanding of the left's argument is that:


1, ethnicity isn't relevant in many circumstances; her being from Nigeria had nothing to do with her recruiting for Amway. (Maybe it would have been relevant if she had claimed to have received an inheritance of $50 MILLIOIN[sic] USD DOLLARS and needed to borrow $500 for legal fees....)


    

  1. treating 'white' as an unmarked default and all other ethnicities as a marked perpetual other is both rude and dangerous, as it lays the groundwork for the sort of atrocities all too familiar to the student of history.
    2. 





Ethnicity is ... vital for getting a proper mental picture of the situation, and I don't like having important details deliberately concealed.




...what if we were to include the ethnicity of everyone including white people?


"Miguel Gutierrez, a Culmore man of Salvadoran origin, ... James Baker, an East Culmore man of English origin...."


"So I met this white guy with an American accent...."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Federal agents cannot be prosecuted by the state for actions that occur during their duties.




Just out of curiosity, does that include traffic violations? (E. g., an ICE agent going through a red light at 60 mph in a 25 mph zone.)


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Link?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


DHS has claimed the guy was armed with a handgun and "two magazines".




Time and Newsweek?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Our Volk?


The only 'Volk' I consider meaningful is that of the scions of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


the vast majority of anti ICE leftists seem to believe that the only acceptable ICE action would be "disband entirely."




There are those who would favour deporting some people (those who have individually done Very Bad Things), but believe that it should be done by a different agency with a less bloodthirsty institutional culture.


Prior to 2003, deportations of undocumented/illegal immigrants were handled by the same agency processing documented/legal immigrants; this may have resulted in fewer xenophobes and more Lawful Neutrals.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
What about a black man whose ancestors lived there when they were freed by the Emancipation Proclamation?


What about a man whose ancestors came from El Salvador during the Fillmore Administration?


What about a man who was born in El Salvador, but naturalised twenty years ago and no longer has Salvadoran citizenship?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


This is actually where I think the line should be drawn as well - which is one of the reasons why I reject the 1947 borders.




We would also have to reject the independence of India and most of Africa. Thus some concessions are made regarding the outlying non-self-governing territories of the European states.




I'm not sure what your dark intimations about some mysterious ideology are




I'm referring to the ideology commonly referred to its opponents as 'wokeness', or formerly as 'SJW', which believes, inter alia, that the Palestinians are Sacred Indigenous People Who By Definition Can Do No Wrong, and that the Israelis are Evil Colonisers To Whom Nothing Bad Has Ever Happened And Who Deserve Everything Bad That Happens To Them. (This ideology tends to reject, as described by Mr de Boer, any name applied to them.)


Your acknowledgement that the Palestinians as much as the Israelis need to learn to co-exist with people who aren't them would be quite rare in many universities.




The Deir Yassin massacre was noteworthy in large part because the village in question had signed a non-aggression pact with the [Z]ionist forces




I do not condone the killing of non-combatants, even if they are on the same side that started it. However, the Arab forces were not innocent in that regard.




Then you actually incentivise coming up with a pretext to further legitimise these conflicts or otherwise obscure the identity of who started them, which is a precedent wide open for abuse.




Which is why, as a general principle, the best settlement is a return to status quo ante. Exceptions are made when that would leave someone without any territory.




Who started the war in Ukraine?




Vladimir Putin, with the little green men in 2014 and the full-scale invasion in 2022, in the morning, at exactly 5 a. m.




Who started the US occupation of Afghanistan?




The Taliban, by harbouring al-Qaida, and continuing to do so after the attacks of 11th September 2001.




Moreover, who started the current conflict in Gaza that Israel is using to claim territory?




The 'Islamic Resistance Movement' a. k. a. 'Hamas', 'Palestinian Islamic Jihad', and various other Palestinian groups, on 22nd Tishrei 5784 (7th October 2023).




they should be moved to America, a country which seemingly absolutely loves them




But is that certain to remain the case? If it changes, and the Jews are no longer safe in America, where will they go then? What about those with less-than-immaculate pasts, or those who are likely to be unable to support themselves?


That is why the existence of a Jewish-majority state is seen as non-negotiable by so many. The events of the 1930s and 1940s made reliance on the good will of the Nations an extremely un-appealing proposition. (More information on this aspect can be found in the writings of Scott Aaronson.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					




What the hell kind of name is "Storm"








I know! But it's a genuine name, comes from Norwegian ancestry




I wonder did Tim Minchin know that?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


once an ai makes a mistake, it stubbornly continues along that path




I don't think that that is a pattern peculiar to AI....


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Yes, and Israel acquired that territory via force of arms. If Israel can do it, why not Russia? If Israel can do it, why can't China do the same to Taiwan?




Because after the World Wars, we realised that industrial warfare was increasingly destructive and needed to be stopped. Undoing all previous land seizures would involve untangling a colossal rats'-nest of claims and counter-claims, many of which left few if any records; thus we drew a line in the sand at 1945: going forward, no nation would be allowed to take land from another by force of arms.


This left the question of European colonies, one of which was the British territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. The United Nations passed a resolution dividing the territory into a Jewish state, an Arab state, and an internationalised Jerusalem. The Jews were willing to accept this proposal; the Arabs rejected it, started a war intended to drive the Jews into the sea, and failed. (Had the Arabs accepted the proposal, there would be a Palestinian state consisting of the Gaza Strip extended northward along the coast to Ashdod and southward along the Egyptian border halfway to the Gulf of Aqaba, an expanded West Bank surrounding Jerusalem and connecting to Gaza at a quadripoint, an area on the northern coast and Lebanese border extending to Acre and Nazareth and connecting to the West Bank at a quadripoint, and an exclave at Jaffa. They would also have a slight majority of the land area north of the 31st parallel, south of which is the Negev desert.)




Of course! But you'd also have to launch mass prosecutions for anyone in the Israeli government who supported the illegal settlements or the military action in Gaza. You'd also have to take every single Israeli who supported the ethnic cleansing of Gaza or otherwise held racist views towards the Palestinians and put them through some re-education, but if there's real accountability and progress I'm confident you could have peace between the two populations.




So your proposal would involve both sides receiving remedial 'things they should have learned in kindergarten' lessons? You are at least more reasonable than the Ideology Which Refuses To Be Named....




I don't care about pre-1967 Israeli territory - why do you think that the perpetrators of the Deir Yassin massacre should be rewarded?




Because they didn't start the war.




I was under the impression that you're opposed to taking territory through violence!




If someone gains territory in a war that they started, that incentivises further aggression. If someone loses territory in a war that they started, however....




A single state solution definitively repudiates the idea that claiming territory via force of arms is acceptable.




Unfortunately, it also leaves the Jewish people, with their long history of persecutions and expulsions, a minority in every state in the world, and thus making their survival (at least in the age of modern passport and immigration controls) dependent on whether the Nations are feeling generous that day; the example of the MS St Louis makes that a non-starter.


If other countries were to open their borders, a one-state solution might become feasible.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I am referring to both the Golan Heights and the continued expansion of the Yellow line.




Both of which are outside of pre-1967 Israeli territory; the Green Line being the border of such with the West Bank and Gaza. Admittedly this doesn't address the Golan Heights; I apologise if I was less than clear.




a single-state solution with full democracy




As such a state would likely soon have an Arab population greater than its Jewish population, and as many of the Palestinian Arabs object to Jews existing as equals, I would judge a 'one-state solution' as being approximately as prudent as siting Doreen's Nursery next to Ed's Dingo Farm.




along with some denazification efforts/war-crime prosecutions




Of Hamas, right? (Padme, her face concerned!)




condemnations of wars of aggression for lebensraum that mysteriously pass over Israel




Do you know of any organisations condemning Israeli actions in Gaza/the West Bank/the Golan Heights who also explicitly reject Palestinian claims on pre-1967 Israeli territory? Such an organisation would have more credibility than one that equivocates whether, when they refer to 'occupied Palestine', they mean to include Tel Aviv, and has discovered no degree of anti-Semitism sufficient to draw a reaction of "You can't sit with us!".




it isn't wars of aggression that you're objecting to but some secret other motive




It's not secret; I believe everyone is entitled to my opinion. I would prefer that no clay be taken by force of arms; however, if that option is unavailable, and one side or the other must gain from the conflict, I would prefer that the side gaining territory be the side that was minding its own damn business.


If Alicestan is invaded by Bobesia,


Borders return to status quo ante > Alicestan takes land from Bobesia >>> Bobesia takes land from Alicestan.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Anti-'Israel-expanding-beyond-the-Green-Line' or anti-'Israel-existing-at-all'?


If those favouring a two-state solution were to tell those advocating an Arab-Palestine-from-the-river-to-the-sea, like the gay rights movement told the pedophiles, "You can't sit with us!", I would regard them with more sympathy.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for January 18, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Thirty days hath September/April, June, and November/All the rest have thirty-one/Except Januarifebruary, which has seventy-eight.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The acceptable false positive rate you're really looking for is the number of people who were accosted by ICE but weren't detained.




That would be closer to analogosity, but I don't think it quite reaches; someone hassled but not detained by ICE still has it worse, because of the implication.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for January 11, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I'd like to make it clear that I don't endorse this idea.




Thank you for that clarification.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Why do you figure they would not consider encouraging more wars of territorial expansion in their interest?




Because the damage from such conflicts tends to outweigh the value of the territory gained; thus everyone involved is less able to afford to buy goods from, and produce goods for sale to, everywhere else. A world in which countries regularly start wars over territory is one in which everyone is worse off.




but there at least doesn't seem to be a direct threat from it to anyone else in the EU




Twenty years ago, there didn't seem to be a threat to anyone else from Russia.


Fifty years ago, there didn't seem to be a threat to anyone else from Iran.


A century ago, no one thought China would be of any geopolitical significance.


If wars of territorial aggression become normalised, it is far from certain that the grandchildren of the current leadership will not regard their neighbours with envious eyes, and slowly and surely draw their plans against one another.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of January 12, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I still don't quite understand which parts of the European leadership genuinely consider Ukraine a core interest of theirs




Well, it's not so much Ukraine per se, but rather not encouraging more wars of territorial expansion.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for January 11, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That depends on whether you those implementing such a system are asking "How much can we afford to guarantee everyone as a minimum?" or "How little can we get away with guaranteeing everyone as a minimum?".


If they are asking the former, and increasing it as society produces more and automation advances, such that people can expect that the minimum 20-30 years from now will be less unpleasant, there might be statistically-significantly more than a snowball's chance in hell of it working.


If they are asking the latter, they will signal that you would let people starve to death if they thought they could get away with it, and it will not end well for them.




For this was the sin of thy sister Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness were in her and her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. --Ezekiel 16:49




The men of Sodom had abundant creature comforts, with little toil, for themselves; but refused to share those benefits with their neighbours.




The mills of G-d grind slow, but they grind exceeding small.




				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for January 11, 2026
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Why are the Jews trying to burn down and steal Patagonia in Argentina?




I strongly doubt that they are. However, let's suppose, as a thought experiment, that the claims given are correct.


The Jews tried to live in Europe. The people living in Europe did not agree to let them live there.


They tried to move to America. The people there let some of them in, but refused many others, and asserted the right to decide whether to allow them.


They moved to the Levant. The people living there started three wars, lost them, and have waged guerilla warfare ever since, attempting to drive them out. The Western chattering classes have expressed sympathy with the guerillas, calling for them to control 'from the river to the sea' and advocating 'globalising the intifada', thus implying that they do not consent to Jews living anywhere.


Therefore, if there is no location whose chattering-class-recognised population is willing to allow the Jewish people the unconditional right to live there, then the only possibility is for the Jewish people to establish a home for themselves against the wishes of the current inhabitants.


Where exactly would you have that be? Where should the Jewish people have the right to live, even if the people living there don't want them there, given that that condition also potentially applies to anywhere else?