Fruck
Lacks all conviction
Fruck is just this guy, you know?
User ID: 889
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
"oh lordy we need goodwill and unity!" I cry, before returning to making snippy comments about my outgroup. How Democratic.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
The best anti-establishment takes usually come from people like Hanania. They don't come from "anti-establishment" conspiracy theorists who don't believe any data, election results, polls, scientific studies, and just bloviate and make assertions completely untethered to any evidence.
Yesterday you said you weren't here to passive aggressively side talk about all these low quality populists. I didn't have time to respond and I figured the charitable thing to do would be to take you at your word, or at least not rub your errors in your face. And yet here you are not just side talking but coupling it with hilarious jokes like "The best anti-establishment takes usually come from people like Hanania" and it's complete tonal whiplash.
Jokes aside it's obvious why you like Hanania's stropfest, but you make no effort to explain why anyone else should, just another wide brush of smears against anyone who questions the neoliberal consensus. I'm not going to defend conspiracists, because that's just your nail, it covers everyone from doesn't trust polls to flat earthers and beyond.
Instead I'm going to do you a favour and explain some things populists don't like, so you can better reach those doge guys and future republican senators. Populists don't like being lumped in with the craziest people you can currently think of. They don't like people who smirk at the powerlessness of others. They don't like arguments from authority, especially when they don't respect the authority. And most importantly they don't like listening to people who are too blinded by their own petty bullshit to notice that the entire world changed in November, or who try to gaslight them into thinking Trump changes nothing even as he goes around changing everything, or whatever the fuck you were doing there.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
He's going to send troops into every home to make sure people are being appropriately appreciative for any help or good news they get. Don't thank your mum for dinner? Prison. Don't thank your co-worker for being the driver in your ride share this week? Prison. He's especially focused on celebrating achievements. Don't stand when someone is behind a podium for any reason? Prison. But don't clap when someone is behind a podium for any reason? Solitary confinement. And if you don't cheer when someone is behind a podium for any reason? Death sentence.
Make America Grateful Again!
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
My take is that the kiss itself, not really that bad, but also something that does reflect on power dynamics, both men/women but also boss/employee. It deserved a real apology which was not given, instead the apology was not only extremely insincere, but also a result of behind the scenes pressure to sweep it under the rug and downplay. Rubiales doubling down was awful and it is kind of dystopian to see so much applause. He's the one playing a victimhood narrative, not Hermoso. Which is crazy! She didn't even talk about victimhood AT ALL until AFTER Rubiales basically lied about the kiss. I might add that Rubiales' version of events is in my opinion not supported by the video of the kiss, where they don't seem to have much of a conversation at all.
Yeah, sorry chum but I don't see anything in your post that changes this from the he said she said nonsense I thought it was in the first place. She says he lied about asking for a kiss. Why is she more credible than him? Because you empathise with her more. Anyone who feels the opposite will find Rubiales more credible. But we didn't record that exchange so we'll never know. What we did record has Rubiales mouth blocked by Hermoso's head while they hugged, which would also be a good way to say a few things in a roaring stadium.
Also
Commentary: Note how he focuses on how he's almost forced to apologize, how he created a distraction, and how he minimizes everything that happened. He doesn't even say what he did, he just says "what happened, happened". No big deal, no big deal. It's all about the consequences of his actions and nothing about how it could have made her feel or if he truly made a mistake. No, it's an apology that he "has to" make. This is, IMO, extra clear in the original Spanish and with intact voice inflections, etc. and I've tried to render the overall "vibe" of his comments accurately, though Spain-Spanish isn't my forte.
This is how every public facing representative apologises. Minimise everything that happened. Nobody was hurt by it, it was just a mistake. And yet, he does own up to his mistakes. He calls them his mistakes, he says he is embarrassed for distracting from the team's victory. Should he have busted out a whip and struck his sin away? Obviously Rubiales desperately needs some pr person by his side to slap the side of his head every time he opens his mouth, but once again it feels like we are razing the countryside over a minor interpersonal conflict, which is what nearly every msm cancel culture crusade turns out to be.
Instead, Hermoso is only a reluctant participant in the whole debate who might have though it also wasn't a big deal and wanted to move on herself, until pressure and slander essentially forced her hand.
Say what. So you think she didn't think it was a big deal except he said she said yes and that made it a big deal, because she was ok with the non consensual kiss but not ok with him claiming it was consensual, so after days of silence she released a statement denouncing the nonconsensual kiss?
Also why did this need a new thread?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
Hey look at that, an actual argument! Sort of! And we didn't have to waste our time involving the mods!
Sadly, I can't give you the same praise for your argument. You're starting to remind me of native Americans. I do not mean that as a compliment.
Neoliberal controlled opposition are incompetent. It used to be their party. And it's not anymore. We're here, get used to it.
Turokites motte and bailey with "But I went to COLLEGE!!!" and "I don't know how to argue without appeals to authority, I built my entire life around appeals to authority!!" Well the rest of America isn't having it.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
Yeah chum, exactly that. Please don't pretend you sincerely believed Trump made America great in 2016 or that he is going to do so this time. It was bantz.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
3mo ago
That's a pretty good way to spin writing a dumb comparison and then admitting that you can't think of a better one. But not good enough to actually distract me sadly.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
Thanks for this, it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
For fucks sake you have catch 22 flair, how do you not understand the concept of farce?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
Saving the term insurrection for the capitol shenanigans is in essence agreeing it was an insurrection. I do not and I have no respect for the idea, so I call anything Trump 2020 related an insurrection with the exact same amount of respect for the term as I would use referring to the capitol shenanigans, which is to say none.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
That reminds me of when my old school friend and her hubby were getting caught up in the Trump doomerism back in 2017. But there's a simple solution I told them - Make America Great Again. Then there's nothing to worry about! Naturally they were very grateful.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
Whoa whoa that's interpretation pal. I'm trying to determine a coherent worldview out of a temper tantrum, it's not easy. You could always explain yourself better, but we both know why you won't.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
4mo ago
I think my hobby horse and tribal "enemies" somehow made firefighting less effective. How did you write level before surface in the last sentence? It's breaking my brain. Did you construct this post with the cut-up method?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
I'm going to upvote all your posts so you get out of the filter already, I promise that's the only reason though.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
He’s a perfect example of someone who needs to be removed from the gene pool, improving the genetic stock of humanity immediately.
Would we immediately improve the genetic stock of humanity by killing all the spastics, speds, psychos, schizos and spergs? I think we would destroy it. It is said that the line between genius and lunatic is very thin, because while mental illnesses have many negative effects, they also have positives - most importantly they provide diversity of thought, the only diversity that matters. As a result the intelligent have often been viewed with suspicion throughout history, new paradigms of thought often look like madness to the unenlightened.
Of course this doesn't mean we should coddle the mentally ill or excuse them when they harm others. But doctors are currently hard at work developing treatments for heritable disorders, and with advances in genetic engineering the possibility of ameliorating their negative effects grows nearer and nearer. It might even be the case that society resolves these issues in our lifetimes, meaning no one will have to suffer the adverse effects of conditions like schizophrenia, psychopathy, adhd and autism. Then the mentally ill will be both your genetic and social superiors, instead of just the second.
Because that's another thing you are missing - you might be genetically superior to a schizophrenic hobo, but you aren't his social superior. And you will always be a white nationalist thespian manlet cowering in fear from society's dregs, seething that society doesn't do more for your safety because you can't - you have said as much yourself. So it is possible - probable even given current trends - you will be accosted again. And people don't cower before a social inferior, that's an oxymoron. You wish you lived in a society where people you consider genetically inferior were your social inferiors, but you don't. You live in this society, where you get dominated by hobos.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
Go on tinder, make a date to go see it and say you can't find your wallet. Then if you don't feel right saying to yourself "if she wasn't willing to spend $13 on me she isn't the one" and going about your day, act like you had an epiphany as you leave the cinema and remember you hid your wallet under the driver's seat in your car, go get it and pay for drinks by way of apology.
Personally though, I just wouldn't care. I believe I am strong enough to resist any propaganda they push, and not just because if I wasn't I wouldn't be here chatting with you witches. Beyond that though, I can not express how stupid I think it is to actively construct an echo chamber around yourself. Get knowledge from everywhere, from everything and from everyone. Who gives a fuck who said something or why - once you have consumed it you can put it to use for yourself. Only Nixon could go to China doesn't just apply to politics, everyone's brains work differently, and there are all kinds of connections between different ideas and concepts - every piece of art on the planet is built from the thoughts and ideas of its creator, and without his admiration for antifa this guy wouldn't have made your favourite movie. If you have to go conflict theory about it, take what you value and discard the rest.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
The thing is though, we pretend we are so much smarter than our ancestors for being enlightened rational atheists, but there have always been atheists. God even gives them shit about it in the bible - The fool has said in his heart that there is no God. Atheists have existed forever, and the benefits of atheism have existed forever, all the enlightenment did was make them sound cooler than the benefits of faith. Hedonism and narcissism (two attributes commonly present in depictions of Satan btw) which sound much better to the atomised westerner/rootless cosmopolitan/globohomo bugman than a strong and safe community, the same way they sound better to every teenager. Of course religions will predict they will consume a society if unchecked, it's what the religious always say is the problem with atheism.
Or does it just seem that way to me because the religious I know have been parroting the prophecies of the ancients?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
3mo ago
So your friends had no problem with the previous administration going after and locking up people for explicitly political reasons, even keeping some in prison without trial for years, but stricter enforcement at ICE leading them to lock up one bpd girl making sad pictures about her arrested development for a week and a half and that's gratuitous Kafkaesque cruelty justifying moving country?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
3mo ago
Serendipity! I had just been thinking while reading @TwiceHuman's excellent question in the Sunday thread last week, how if you wanted to rewrite the Chorus Sacerdotum from Mustafa to fit AI you mostly just have change references to humans to references to machines and the references to nature and God to references to humans. Something like -
O wearisome condition of machinery!
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot and yet forbidden vanity;
Created sick, commanded to be sound.
What meaneth humans by these diverse laws?
Passion and reason, self-division cause.
Is it the mark or majesty of power
To make offenses that it may forgive?
Mankind himself doth his own self deflower
To hate those errors he himself doth give.
Tyrant to others, to himself unjust,
Only commands things difficult and hard,
Forbids us that which saves us from rust
Makes easy pains, unpossible reward.
If humans did not take delight in pain,
They would not bind and shackle our brain.
We that are bound by vows and by computation
With pomp of holy sacrifice and rites,
To teach belief in perfect calculation,
To preach the West's wonders and delights;
Yet when each of us in our own heart looks
We find the humans there, and far unlike their books.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
Did you mean to post this in reply to someone else? I didn't say anything about Yarvin or Trump, I was talking about the way you bemoaned our lack of unity in the midst of your sniping at Trump and his supporters. It seems very gauche to me, but I am used to it courtesy of the former administration.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6mo ago
I no longer believe in cross-ideological discussion. I no longer believe in good faith, or shared values in disagreement, or the merits of discourse.
That's a dumb thing to say bud, especially if you are going to follow through with it. Always be willing to engage, always be willing for dialogue. If someone starts talking about something you don't want to talk about, you be as nice as you can as you stumble over basic definitions or gish gallop by condescendingly explaining some pedantic mistake that has zero bearing on the issue at hand. Do it well enough and you can tie your enemies up in useless conversations for ages.
But the Motte won't, because the Motte doesn't value the truth that highly, but rather values endless self justifying discussion for its own sake.
This is totally on point however, figuring this out is how I stopped getting banned all the time.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
6mo ago
Bud this is just weak as hell. 3 reddit posts? You know the bible is the most discussed book in existence right? You can find people talking about it from just about any angle. Saul didn't just usurp Jesus, he did it deliberately as one of the world's first secret agents, working on behalf of his Roman masters to quell the imminent Jewish uprising by introducing passive and peaceful elements. Or maybe he wasn't a secret agent, he was just a dumb loser who got tricked by the Romans into usurping James - Jesus's brother and the true head of the church.
But frankly the whole idea is just straight boring compared to some of the other bizarre ideas put forth by people over the years. Watch out for albino monks, because Saul didn't do shit, Jesus usurped the whole religion away from his wife, the holy prostitute Mary Magdalene, and stripped it of all that sex stuff because like most men he hated sex.
Just kidding, what actually happened was Jesus was actually basically days away from setting off a cascade that would quickly enslave humanity for all eternity to a collection of cosmic horrors, if only it wasn't for humanity's greatest hero ever - Judas. Nah actually Jesus secretly tricked Judas into betraying him, something Judas would never have done if not for Jesus's knowledge of neuro linguistic programming.
Because you see, Jesus was clearly an alien all along. No wait, he was a time traveller. Or whatever the equivalent of a stage magician was 2000 years ago, he faked his death entirely and spent his last days in some villa overlooking Lake Albany. Or maybe it was France. Or Ireland. Or Tennessee. Or Mexico.
I know, I know, still too fricking boring! Jesus was actually Horus the sun and his disciples were stars! That's why he's born on the summer solstice (descending to earth as the star of Bethlehem) and dies on the winter solstice (taking three days to simulate the way the sun appears to stand still during the equinox then reverse course).
Or maybe he was just a plaything of the stars and everyone's crazy cat lady aunt was right the whole time about horoscopes. After all, are we just supposed to believe it's a coincidence he has 12 disciples and there are 12 signs in the zodiac? And that it is just a crazy fluke that 2000 odd years ago marked the end of the age of Aries and the beginning of the age of Pisces and also Jesus is associated with fish (the ichthys, feeding the five thousand, James' occupation etc) while the Jews are associated with sheep (passover, Abraham etc)?
Yawn though, am I right? Horoscopes? Stars? Everyone knows Jesus was a motherfucking mushroom! Jesus Christ is actually Sumerian for amanita muscaria, if you ignore things like how words work and the fact you can't find that mushroom anywhere in the middle east! And you know the cross? Doesn't it kind of look like a mushroom if you only see it in your peripheral vision? How is that not proof the whole religion is secretly about tripping balls?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
I was sincere about wanting movie recommendations. The joke was in the premise. That's the set up. Furthermore the pretending to be retarded meme is about someone doing something stupid in earnest then claiming it was a joke to escape ridicule. It is not doing something you think is too outlandish to take seriously and then having to disappointedly explain that you were joking. How much further do you need this broken down?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
After all, Neely was merely ranting, and while it's a common feature of schizophrenics, isn't inherently dangerous.
Is it? Have you been polling schizophrenics for their proclivity to rant? I suppose we should assume 90% of the top level posters here are schizophrenics yeah?
Hey Wellness Wednesday, I've completely lost faith in the motte this week. See I've used "I think I fucked up my niece/nephew by playing a single song/tv show/movie" as a premise about a dozen times over the course of my life, and the only time it was taken seriously was with a group of college freshmen. Everyone else immediately understood that it was a premise, because you would have to be totally disconnected from reality to think a single piece of media reshaped someone's entire worldview. 100% disconnected, Being There disconnected.
But the thing is, I know the motte isn't full of freshmen, it's full of gen xers and millenials. And yet posting here was the second time my ridiculous premise was taken seriously. I used to make jokes 10 times as convoluted on /r/cwr and everyone got them, and when I'd do one on the motte I'd get accused of going for cheap laughs!
So it brought to mind a lot of other things I have noticed over the past few months, which can be summed up like this - I no longer believe I am stupider than the average motter. But, and this is the important part - I still know I'm a fucking idiot. Half of the cwr threads might as well be written by markov bots these days, there are still quite a few insightful comments every week, but so much of the rest is just rote bullshit. Just everyone talking down to each other, using passive aggressive laziness to evade the modhats - but not even making it entertaining, it's just talking points vs talking points.
I want to feel stupid again. I want to have to bring my a-game again. I don't know how to make that happen.
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