Fruck
Lacks all conviction
Fruck is just this guy, you know?
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Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
I mean they technically don't change someone's "entire worldview" because that's not really possible
...
And yeah, I know, everything changes slowly and maybe the piece of media was just a "straw that broke the camel's back"
Come on man.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
So that leaves Hamlin as the only person who had a sudden, life-threatening cardiac event, and I'd hardly call one person a trend.
Come on son. It doesn't leave shit, all you have done is claim Rich (54) was young and had a history of mental illness (he was a child movie star) and so he might have oded or killed himself.
Then we get to Lee, where you tell us that people don't advise others to check on your loved ones and tell them you love them when someone dies suddenly of an unknown cause? The conclusion you reach being - I think - that she committed suicide too? Why wouldn't your loved one dying suddenly of an unknown cause prompt you to check on your loved ones and make sure they know how much you love them - before it's too late you know, before they die suddenly from an unknown cause?
Lastly we have the ODU player, who didn't die, so his life wasn't threatened enough to count. And now you have made up just so stories for three of them, you can declare Hamlin the only person who had a sudden, life-threatening cardiac event! Except you can't expect any of that to convince the op - he is concerned because he doesn't know what information he should be believing, and you throw even more possibilities into the mix! Or to put it another way, jeroboam expressed his hypothetical possibilities to promote gathering more information. You expressed your hypothetical possibilities to promote gathering less information.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
Hey Wellness Wednesday, I've completely lost faith in the motte this week. See I've used "I think I fucked up my niece/nephew by playing a single song/tv show/movie" as a premise about a dozen times over the course of my life, and the only time it was taken seriously was with a group of college freshmen. Everyone else immediately understood that it was a premise, because you would have to be totally disconnected from reality to think a single piece of media reshaped someone's entire worldview. 100% disconnected, Being There disconnected.
But the thing is, I know the motte isn't full of freshmen, it's full of gen xers and millenials. And yet posting here was the second time my ridiculous premise was taken seriously. I used to make jokes 10 times as convoluted on /r/cwr and everyone got them, and when I'd do one on the motte I'd get accused of going for cheap laughs!
So it brought to mind a lot of other things I have noticed over the past few months, which can be summed up like this - I no longer believe I am stupider than the average motter. But, and this is the important part - I still know I'm a fucking idiot. Half of the cwr threads might as well be written by markov bots these days, there are still quite a few insightful comments every week, but so much of the rest is just rote bullshit. Just everyone talking down to each other, using passive aggressive laziness to evade the modhats - but not even making it entertaining, it's just talking points vs talking points.
I want to feel stupid again. I want to have to bring my a-game again. I don't know how to make that happen.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2mo ago
Shit man, if you are 59 years old you really ought to have figured out what a bad person is by now. Or at least have some inkling. I am similarly confused if you meant you don't understand what he meant by 'insinuate you are a bad person'.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
It was the Friday fun thread. I don't want anyone to feel bad in the Friday fun thread. This is not a speak plainly issue because the joke was only, in my eyes, a clear cut example of the issue of surface level engagement. It was in itself not a big deal, but it both made me think of a problem I had seen more and more and appeared to be a perfect example of it.
I made a mistake in this Wellness post. I forgot how highly smart people value their intelligence, and so my claim that I no longer felt stupid here is all anyone can focus on and has caused great injury. I am sorry. You should probably mod me. Threatening to shut down analogies and metaphors on the speak plainly rule is absurd.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2mo ago
That's a pretty good way to spin writing a dumb comparison and then admitting that you can't think of a better one. But not good enough to actually distract me sadly.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
A Black barber would have no idea how to cut my hair, and my barber has no idea how to cut 4c hair.
A white guy walks into a barber shop in Compton, where he is greeted by the proprietor
"Hello there sir, and welcome to my barber shop! Who is getting their hair cut today?"
White guy looks around, confused, at the otherwise empty store
"Uh hi, I am? I'm getting my hair cut, I'd like a short back and sides please - 4 blade if you can."
"You?! You want me to cut your hair? But how!? I only have scissors for black hair sir, I don't have even one pair of white scissors! How do white people even start a short back and sides, do you do it in order of colour shade? Should I start on a diagonal? Nope, I'm sorry sir but without extensive training I think this is probably only going to endanger the both of us."
What reasons exist for good and natural segregation of hair dressing services that don't exist for schools, public transport, restaurants etc?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
3mo ago
Hey look at that, an actual argument! Sort of! And we didn't have to waste our time involving the mods!
Sadly, I can't give you the same praise for your argument. You're starting to remind me of native Americans. I do not mean that as a compliment.
Neoliberal controlled opposition are incompetent. It used to be their party. And it's not anymore. We're here, get used to it.
Turokites motte and bailey with "But I went to COLLEGE!!!" and "I don't know how to argue without appeals to authority, I built my entire life around appeals to authority!!" Well the rest of America isn't having it.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
5mo ago
Yeah chum, exactly that. Please don't pretend you sincerely believed Trump made America great in 2016 or that he is going to do so this time. It was bantz.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
Thanks for this, it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
For fucks sake you have catch 22 flair, how do you not understand the concept of farce?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
Let's try to keep things straight here.
My opinion on the effect ai art will have on artists is correct. Your opinion on the effect ai art will have on artists is incorrect. Ok now we've got that straight we can have a decent argument.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2yr ago
What a strange thing to say. Never mind that mass production has been around for a century and never ever created products identical to handmade, what other priorities might your tongue have then? Have you considered that maybe your tongue doesn't actually care, but due to a minor addendum you made to one of its arguments - helping it no less - it is just pretending to care because it is a child?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
3mo ago
Serendipity! I had just been thinking while reading @TwiceHuman's excellent question in the Sunday thread last week, how if you wanted to rewrite the Chorus Sacerdotum from Mustafa to fit AI you mostly just have change references to humans to references to machines and the references to nature and God to references to humans. Something like -
O wearisome condition of machinery!
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot and yet forbidden vanity;
Created sick, commanded to be sound.
What meaneth humans by these diverse laws?
Passion and reason, self-division cause.
Is it the mark or majesty of power
To make offenses that it may forgive?
Mankind himself doth his own self deflower
To hate those errors he himself doth give.
Tyrant to others, to himself unjust,
Only commands things difficult and hard,
Forbids us that which saves us from rust
Makes easy pains, unpossible reward.
If humans did not take delight in pain,
They would not bind and shackle our brain.
We that are bound by vows and by computation
With pomp of holy sacrifice and rites,
To teach belief in perfect calculation,
To preach the West's wonders and delights;
Yet when each of us in our own heart looks
We find the humans there, and far unlike their books.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
I would have appreciated the pile in earlier, I don't know why anyone would think I wasn't expecting pushback, if everyone agreed with me there wouldn't be a problem because everyone would have also decided to make an effort to understand every post they reply to at the start of the year.
But I have learned my lesson now. I was picking on people and no I don't get to find out how I should just shut up already. This is fine.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
Am I wrong about the average age here? The joke was that I was afraid this kid would watch a movie and suddenly flip his entire worldview, a premise that was mocked mercilessly when I was growing up, because "everyone knows" that nobody is influenced by just one thing, everything is a confluence of the innumerable stories everyone hears all day every day. That doesn't mean media doesn't have an influence on people, of course it does! But nobody becomes a nihilist after watching fight club one time, just like nobody becomes a libertarian after reading atlas shrugged and nobody becomes a mass shooter after playing doom - there are a thousand other stops along the way there, and if it looks like an immediate turn that is because prior stories predisposed the person to absorb that influence.
I chose the words "a single piece of media reshaped someone's entire worldview." very carefully, to avoid this exact tangent.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
I was sincere about wanting movie recommendations. The joke was in the premise. That's the set up. Furthermore the pretending to be retarded meme is about someone doing something stupid in earnest then claiming it was a joke to escape ridicule. It is not doing something you think is too outlandish to take seriously and then having to disappointedly explain that you were joking. How much further do you need this broken down?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
1yr ago
It's all just thinly veiled rhetoric about exterminating most black Americans (most black Americans live in the South).
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
27d ago
You seem to be focused on pedantry, based on your determination that the suicidal fit who I was talking about because suicide is self destruction, so I don't think you are interested in my point. Talking, if bitching is too 'harsh'.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
2mo ago
I think it would have turned out ok if he'd stuck with them though, or at least not backed down the way he did.
Did I touch a nerve?
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