Fruck
Lacks all conviction
Fruck is just this guy, you know?
User ID: 889
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Likewise, plus I think it is a fundamental piece of the puzzle that @FiveHourMarathon's op was missing - the female perspective. I didn't want to say anything in reply to five, because the op was insightful in other ways and I didn't want to put our few women on the spot, but since it's been brought up I think it would be great to talk about, because I also find it fascinating. Also you are at your rhetorical best on two subjects imo @2rafa, class and gender dynamics, I am always keen to hear what you think about them, even when I find what you say upsetting or even degrading.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Which is why you torrent triple a slop and pay for indies that deserve it. You shouldn't be pirating because you are poor, you can get games cheap easy enough, you should pirate because FUCK THE VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY. Burn that fucker to the ground and salt the earth behind you. Then Nintendo or whoever can start again, again.
Which social media do you trust, and for god's sake why?
That's not really an effective disarmament tactic for scissor statements anyway (which is another reason they're so effective), because it doesn't matter whether the story happened or not - nobody really gives a shit about that scarf or the hotel or whoever really owned the scarf, they care that there are other people talking about it who don't share their values and have the audacity to judge them despite being sick, perverted scarf stealers/opposed to manic pixie dream girls/insert-your-own-description,-I-can't-take-this-seriously.
I'll tell you what the real scissor statement part of that story is - I can't possibly have been the only guy to read this guy explain how he told his girlfriend he was cold and immediately think 'cuck' can I? Aww is the widdle man cold? Does he want some mittens for his fingies too? If it was really that cold you would only have to wait a few minutes for hypothermia to kick in, and then you'll feel warm again you bitch! It's a damn sight better than letting a woman see you being weak when you haven't even jizzed. That's the only time you should ever show a woman weakness - only after she's seen you bang can you let her see you whimper.
That's how it always starts, by the way, first they steal a scarf for you, next thing you are walking funny and telling people pegging can increase a couple's intimacy.
If it was me on an imaginary date with Agent Scarf Stealer I'd have autistically insisted on trying to get the exact scarf she left at the hotel, and thought the genius part was her suggestion that one scarf is much the same as another. I'm very used to quirky nonsense though, in my defence.
Edit: iprayiam, I should have guessed you'd tackle the real issue, high five! I swear your post wasn't there when I read this thread earlier though.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Yeah basically God sacrificing his son patched out the sacrifice dependency.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
I am... less surprised at the pushback you have received than you are, but that's because I work in a retail adjacent industry I think. And I post more. Anyway I sympathise with your perspective, although I think it's a little outdated. Everyone is calling you rude and entitled, but from my perspective you have what seems to me the default attitude to retail of everyone gen x and older (and the occasional millenial and zoomer) - in any transaction there is a buyer and the seller - the buyer is there to buy something, the seller is there to sell something. Therefore, if the seller wants to sell their product, it is up to them to get the buyer to buy it. Whether they are angry, calm, crying, raging, male, female, black, white, gay, straight, trans, cis - if you want their money you have to convince them to give it to you. The buyer on the other hand, has one responsibility - to hand over the money required to purchase the good. That's it. They could talk entirely in profanity if they liked - as long as they pay, they get service.
Which is to say that yes you were being entitled, but it was precisely as entitled as Starbucks wanted their customers to feel until recently. (It was also as entitled as Starbucks wanted every visitor to feel for a few years there, but that was always madness.) Starbucks didn't become a household name, land a store on every corner and redesign the coffee industry because they made good coffee, everyone is aware of that, but few people ask the follow up 'why were they successful then?' Starbucks' runaway success was in large part due to the way they treated their staff - and a large part of that was their profit sharing type program that gave even the baristas and other part timers stock options. Having a stake in the success of the company, the baristas worked extra hard to convert customers into sales - aka they smiled even when they didn't feel like it. That tied the reliability and success of a corporate operation to the atmosphere and staff behaviour of a mom and pop outfit, and consumers went nuts for it. People want to feel like their presence is wanted and they will drink poisonous tar to feel it.
And I understand the people who feel it's duplicitous to pretend to be nice to someone you loathe or pretend to be happy when you feel like shit, but a) that's society and b) that's what they're being paid for, most people don't care if they grind the beans a particular way, they just want a cute girl or guy to smile when they get their coffee. And yes, maybe it's selfish to not want to worry about tailoring your behaviour to not upset some barista you'll never see again, but I think it is eminently more selfish - and entitled - to expect strangers to treat you like you belong in their Dunbar's group. Especially when you are being paid to be there and the stranger is paying you.
Buy something next time though lol.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
But that's an issue of trust - idk how old you are, but there were conversations like this in the early oughts about search engines dumbing everyone down and removing the need to think for themselves, then a few years after that it was Wikipedia. Each time the same objections were made - it reduces the need to think for yourself, it reduces your ability to find information for yourself and it leads to people stating inaccurate and frankly idiotic statements as fact.
But eventually people realised they couldn't trust google or Wikipedia entirely and we developed epistemic hygiene around them. The same will happen with ai, and I know it will, because my mum - who is by no means tech savvy or even especially research savvy - gushes about ai, but her gushes are 'I love how it gives me all the opinions up front and doesn't hide the ones the establishment doesn't like' (paraphrased) and 'it's no doctor, but it's a God send when I need a sanity check.' (paraphrased) If my mum has developed epistemic hygiene around ai, so can students, and they will.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Tree paper? Like the stuff you wipe your ass with? I only read works scribed on vellum.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Goes great with our post modernist half joke meme president!
Seriously. Every time people think about this song they will say nigga heil hitler in their head. And when the sky doesn't fall as a result, some of those people who were told it would will realise they have been lied to. This is an effective use of outrage to send a message. It's basically the right wing version of Childish Gambino's This is America - except This is America was fuelled by the progressive zeitgeist, and thus was basically substance free, reliant on censorship to both provide substance and shield the song from critics, so my progressive friends' opinion of it was along the lines of 'we have to prop up black people so even if it's kind of empty we can praise it for what it didn't say'.
But Kanye is right (wing lol) so he can't use censorship to his advantage by leveraging silence, he has to leverage outrage. I like both Childish Gambino and Ye as artists, but I'm pretty sure I already know which of the these songs will have a bigger impact.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Kanye West is like a Holocaust-denying parrot. Imagine it, a parrot squawking "six million didn't die, the Holocaust is a lie!" Funny for a few days, but then you're left with a Holocaust-denying parrot squawking and crapping all over its cage.
The value of calling Ye a parrot rests exclusively in the idea he is mindlessly repeating phrases, and while I think that is an odd accusation to level at a guy who just released a rap song literally nobody ever even imagined making before, it maybe fits if you uh, don't count stuff like that. What really frustrates me though is that you extended the analogy so far as to throw parrots under the bus - funny for a few days? Like they're a Yak Bak from the nineties you play with for a bit and throw in the closet? Have you never had a pet bird before?
A parrot is not just for Christmas Alex. They can be for a birthday too. In fact you can eat them all year round.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
That's excellent advice, thanks man. I was going to ask further questions, but I stumbled on the answer myself - I need therapy lol.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
It isn't one lol, it's just his name - that's also why I used politesse instead of something more normal like etiquette or behaviour - it's a set up, if you have a passing familiarity with the words in the title (which is true of most educated people) it sounds very smart and classy, but if you actually know how to use those terms they don't actually make sense together like that. And then you discover that the fancy thing you are about to watch is actually two people cramming fistfuls of eggy pasta into their faces.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
New podcast idea - you take interesting people out to fancy restaurants to discuss controversial topics and eat carbonara with your hands. Call it The politesse functor.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
How did you convince yourself you aren't being selfish though? Like you are standing there just having listened to someone explain that they feel like going postal and can you do them a huge favour and over-commit to some project that is frankly none of your business, and what am I going to do with that time? Nothing of value most likely. If I'm at work it's no drama, because work is work, but if they ask in my free time I don't know how to say "sorry, no, I just finished the second season of this puppet show I've been watching and I have to watch a movie now before I start season 3." Doesn't the "I have a right to defend myself" argument feel a bit hollow in the those circumstances?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
and regulatory structure.
Lacking the industrial base is the argument there, you poison it by adding 'lacking regulatory structure', because that is an issue that can only be solved with nuclear power plants to regulate, and it is solved by politicians doing their jobs.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
My mom? She'll never be much of a "mom", but she really did try to be better and to her credit is not a bad mom in the same way that her mom was bad to her.
Yeah it took me a while to figure out that's the right way to do it - you know you can handle it, because you handled it as a kid. Maybe not perfectly, or even well, but better than all the people who couldn't. Borderline personality disorder's manipulative aspects make me see red, but it seems to me like they can't really stop themselves, it's a soul crushing irony that their abandonment issues drive almost everyone away. You're a good son for staying by her side though anyway, it might be your cross to bear but I know it can't be easy.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
The left broadly owned up to screwing up over Biden's age.
Lmao what? Where? Did they do it so broadly nobody but you noticed? Do you mean George Clooney or has someone who actually matters like Schumer or Pelosi done it? They definitely dropped the whole 'we're the good respectable people' shtick, but I haven't seen any mea culpas over lying to the public and jeopardising the security of the nation by insisting the obviously declining old man is better than ever.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
This was an interesting post, cheers. I wanted to push back a little on your thing with your dad and grandfather though - not to say that you are wrong, but there might be factors you didn't get to see - with an experience of my own. See my dad passed away not too long ago too and it was tough. He'd been on dialysis for half a decade, gone through one quadruple bypass and had a stent, so we weren't expecting him to last much longer, but I had looked after him (during which time we had grown very close and had a lot of hard but rewarding conversations about our issues with each other) and my youngest brother and sister adored him due to growing up with him after our parents divorced, so we were very broken up. But my other brother, the one closer in age to me, lived interstate and when he saw us at the funeral - particularly me - he was perplexed, because he loved our father, but also despised him for the way he'd treated us older kids growing up.
We grew up before the concept of child abuse really existed in the public consciousness and dad didn't think twice about using violence to poorly solve his problems - he felt it was part of his identity as a former soldier I think. He put my brother through a wall once for mouthing off at him, threw me down a flight of stairs when I swore on Jesus' name that I hadn't shoplifted something he was sure I had (I hadn't) and beat both of us with a bed post once when we didn't do washing he'd forgotten to ask us to do. Those are just a few of the more fucked up examples, I can keep at this all day because dad's violence was one of the defining aspects of my growing up - I still remember sitting in the lounge room watching the six o'clock news about one of the first cases where a parent was convicted of child abuse, and when mum went out of the room to get a cup of tea dad turned the TV down and quietly told my brother and I that if we ever even thought of doing that he would kill us and he wouldn't need 30 seconds to do it.
And I'd forgotten how much I resented looking after him when he first got sick - I certainly didn't want to do it, but he'd looked after me when I was sick so I felt I owed him. I spent a lot of time with him though and like I said, we had some difficult conversations, and I learned that he had genuinely grown since our childhood, and over time we grew to be each other's confidants - I still miss him every day. But my brother never got that and so his image of him was still those dead sharks eyes in the lounge room that night.
Tldr - your dad probably spent a lot of time with a very different person than the granddad you knew and loved, because they lived in a different time with very different standards of behaviour. I don't mean to denigrate your granddad, just saying violence used to be a lot more acceptable as a solution and even monsters can become decent people.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
First of all, the people you call moralisers I call the public, because the commonly understood meaning of psychopathic explicitly refers to the extreme end of the scale, and has for decades. There is also a term which means pathology of the psyche, it is psychopathology. Using psychopathy the way you do ignores decades of clinical, research and academic use. If I said 'hey guys the Sistine chapel is obviously awful right?' and everyone said 'wtf are you on the about dummy?' and I replied 'it fills me with awe, that's awful, doesn't it fill you guys with awe too, are you soulless robots?' would you clap in delight or would you roll your eyes?
If you want to make an argument for using psychopathy to mean the pathology of the psyche over psychopathology I am happy to listen, but I'm going to demand you define every term you use first so I can translate your argument into modern English before I engage.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
Alright gang, I've owned every game bar one in the last two humble choices (well, and I refuse to use origin). I don't pay for it so I'm not bothered by missing out, but I am bothered by the absence of claimed stickers and the fact humble don't guarantee keys you've bought will always be available. So if you want a game in this list, tell me and I'll send you the key. I don't know how popular this will be, so let's say you can request one game every 24 hours, and in two days we'll reassess.
Tomb Raider 1 - 3 Remastered - do you like jumping puzzles and cubic women? I like her outfit in number 2, she's still wearing hotpants, but she's in the snow so she puts a jacket on. Smart.
Dredge - fishing game with lovecraftian horror elements. Or lovecraftian unease elements, it's never really scary. It's more relaxing (don't say the c word) and I feel like it would be a better fit for mobile gaming.
Aliens Dark Descent - isometric Aliens tactics game. Great game until you optimise the fun out of it, which it basically forces you to do through its unrelenting pace.
1000xResist - I haven't actually played this game, but it's a very well rated adventure game apparently. It has an interesting premise, you are one of many clones of the only human to survive the arrival of extraterrestrial life, and that human, who now rules the world, is harbouring some dark secrets you have to uncover.
Diplomacy is not an option - a great little rts in the 'try not to get overrun by swarms of enemies' genre, very addictive.
Distant worlds 2 - the sequel to Distant Worlds I guess, which was a 4x game set in space that was alright. Another game I didn't realise I already owned and can't really speak about.
Nomad survival - A vampire survivors style auto battler, I wouldn't put it in the same league as VS (but what is?) but it's up there with the likes of Nova Drift and Brotato imo. If you like synergising your skills in these games you'll have a blast I think.
Pacific Drive - a driving survival game. I just keep putting off playing this game for some reason, it's like the Andor of video games - everyone tells me it's great, but the thought of sitting through the set up puts me off and I go play Elden Ring/watch Newsradio again instead. It comes with all its dlc too though.
Homeworld 3 - I am so glad I didn't have to pay money for this, what a miserable excuse for a sequel. If you want to see the train wreck for yourself you shouldn't pay for it either - so take my key.
Wild Hearts - Omega Force's attempt at Monster Hunter is how this game was sold to me, but it's EA so I never looked into it.
Tales of Kenzera: Zau - I am pretty pissed this is an Origin title because I'll give any metroidvania as shot, even an EA one, but if I'm being honest I don't expect much because its African theming lowers expectations. I'd like to be wrong about that though, if you grab it you have to tell me how it goes.
Gravity Circuit - Gravity Circuit is not a Mega Man Zero game, but it really would like to be one. It gets pretty close, but the controls feel way too slippy to me. Banger soundtrack though.
Sir Whoopass - an open world action adventure game that doesn't take itself seriously at all. It's a lot of fun to start, crammed to the gills with dumb jokes, but gets a bit repetitive.
Racine - a deck building auto battler. I don't understand it at all, but I have 15 hours in it because I like the background music.
Cavern of Dreams - a cute little collectathon that wears its n64 inspiration on its sleeve. Not a very big or complex game, but it's fun to play with little ones.
Anyway like I said, tell me which game you'd like and I'll pm you the code!
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
I first encountered that poem at my Grandma's house too, about 30 years ago, but it survived to the modern day in the configuration I assume Quantum is referencing - Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, /Pol was right again.
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
8mo ago
He's not just saying 'I think society should be improved' he's making moral judgements about owning things like "A preemptive right to universally deprive is obviously psychopathic". But if he thinks it's psychopathic he is either using that term in a way nobody else on earth does or being extremely hyperbolic for the purposes of rhetoric. But whenever anyone asks him about it he goes (paraphrased) "lol, lmao, roflmao, I mean psychopathic". Ok, well then he's a psychopath stealing from everyone right?
Ah, stupid public, thinking 'vaccines make you immune to a virus' just because scientists have been putting exactly that in kids books and shows and songs, and saying it to the UN and African and Afghani warlords for the past 80 years.
If you don't think the establishment were deliberately relying on the public perception of vaccines being viral immunity you are cuckoo.
More options
Context Copy link