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Just saw this bit of news:

https://religionnews.com/2025/05/12/episcopal-church-ends-refugee-resettlement-citing-moral-opposition-to-resettling-white-afrikaners/]https://religionnews.com/2025/05/12/episcopal-church-ends-refugee-resettlement-citing-moral-opposition-to-resettling-white-afrikaners/

with the title of "Episcopal Church refuses to resettle white Afrikaners, ends partnership with US government". Thinking that it was a case of sensationalizing the tittle to attract clicks to a more moderate news article I opened the page. Oh boy was I disappointed.

While the majority of the article was more as a moralizing plea for the resumption of resettlement programs, the beginning at least was what it said in the title. The episcopal church will end its partnership with the US government due to being asked to benefit white south africans.

...we have determined that, by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.

Why are they doing that?, in their words, because they are pro racial justice:

In light of our church’s steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step


It has been painful to watch one group of refugees, selected in a highly unusual manner, receive preferential treatment over many others who have been waiting in refugee camps or dangerous conditions for years.

Maybe the next step in the Trump Administrations should be to show that welfare programs benefit a majority of white people or something like that?



Link to the letter from the Church - https://www.episcopalchurch.org/publicaffairs/letter-from-presiding-bishop-sean-rowe-on-episcopal-migration-ministries/

Reading the letter, I'm struck by the notion that the way they talk about their operations is not so different than what an international corporation does. Bits like

We have served nearly 110,000 refugees during this time, many of whom are now American citizens and beloved members of our communities, workplaces, and neighborhoods.

Just substitute refugees by clients and then it makes sense why they are so gung ho about adding more bodies through this kind of partnerships. They win twice, once by getting money from the federal gevernment and once more with some of those resetled contributing to the church itself, be it through economic donations or voluntary work.

We are working with the affected staff members to provide extensive outplacement services and severance packages.

in reference to their winding down of their resettlement services makes me think Corpo. And it's logical if one thinks about it for a moment, but for some reason it never occurred to me that churches aren't that diferent from other NGO's.

While our public-private partnership as a refugee resettlement agency is no longer viable.

Finally, this last bit is maybe the real reason why they are finishing their services and not just out right anti-white racism, but it is curious that it is buried in the body of the letter and the woke justification is front and center in the opening paragraphs. But one salient point against this theory of mine is that it looks like they are ending services due to the white Afrikaneers, not because the pause in the resetlement programs. This is further reinforced when the original news article mentions that

Four of the faith groups have since filed two separate lawsuits, one of which recently resulted in a ruling that should have restarted the program.

so it sounds to me, like these NGO's were hopping to lawfare their way into opening the money faucet at the through again, but at least for the Episcopal church dealing with whites with "preferential treatment" is too much.

EDIT 05/13.- The ANC has responded

https://x.com/MbalulaFikile/status/1922237764788961358

How are Christians being "limp wristed" because they're taking a stance about helping the poor?

a refugee is someone in danger in their home country, not someone that is poor, isn't he? where are you taking this conflation of refugee with poor from?


e.g. the parable of the good samaritan, Matthew 19:21:

Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

No, it's totally on-brand and correct for anyone that follows the teachings of Jesus to care about the poor.

Here the Episcopal church is taking a stand against the refugee resettlement program (resources allocated for the poor) being perverted to help those that are actually not in need (Afrikaners are generally not very poor); to the detriment of refugees actually in need:

Isn't that referring to your neighbors and people like you?. And that tidbit about "resources allocated for the poor" should be "to the persecuted". I think, your whole line of argumentation falls apart when we take that into consideration.


You're just using "based Crusade Christianity" as a political tool to bash your enemies with, without any regard for the teachings of Jesus.

In fairness, this comment is itself arguing against my political opponents with Christianity, but at least I actually respect its teachings.

2 Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

So far, what I have seen on X of them are just photos by lefties mocking their fatness and how they couldn't have been suffering too much if they were that fat.

EDIT.- Found the tweet in question:

https://x.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/1921909455429439569

"The Chinese man – a student at the University of Michigan – cast his ballot on Sunday and then reached out to local election officials later that day in an attempt to get the ballot back, according to a source familiar with the situation.

The man registered to vote at the polling place on Sunday, the source said. He used his university ID and other documents to demonstrate his residency in Ann Arbor while filling out a same-day voter registration forms, the source said."

He wasn't even caught, he practically turned himself in. Granted, he was in the US legally, but he is a non-citizen that voted and got away with it but by his conscience.

One could argue that the Dems had a say in picking their candidate - in 2020, when they accepted Harris as the person who would take the reins if the President became killed or incapacitated.

huh? there was a primary for the VP slot that I didn't know about?

in my opinion The right wing gets free speech and all it entails, and the left wing freeze peach and all it entails. That means I'm judging them based on their own standards without any hypocrisy involved and I get to keep my moral high ground, thank you very much.

Can we get the mods to please ban the troll accounts posting inflamatory content in the CWT as top level posts and deleting them after a few responses?. There are already two instances of new accounts doing it so far, and I think it would be in our best interest if the practice is heavily discouraged.

As I like to say, Rationalists are thus named because they are excellent at rationalizing their biases.

Most refugees are poor, because countries with armed conflicts and political persecution are largely dysfunctional and poor. Afrikaners are very much an exception to this.

yes, but that doesn't mean that being poor is a requeriment to be a refugee, again, where are you getting your definition on this?


Definitely not just people of your same ethnicity.

I would assume the love your neighbor bit refers to if not same etnicity, at least the near group.


Wealthy people fleeing persecution can take care of themselves, the money is largely useful for the poor (and persecuted yes).

I don't think money will save you from a government that wants you death or destitute.


I don't understand the point you're trying to make with your last verse.

just to show that not everything is passive resistance with Christianity.

While my first impulse is to deny and defend the church, with examples like these and seeing lady bishops and whatnot in some denominations, I can't really deny the reality that there is truth to that statement. Always a disappointment to see the religion of the Crusades being so limp wristed with statements like

As Christians, we must be guided not by political vagaries, but by the sure and certain knowledge that the kingdom of God is revealed to us in the struggles of those on the margins. Jesus tells us to care for the poor and vulnerable as we would care for him, and we must follow that command.

don't they do that as part of their bit BECAUSE it is inherently sexual? after all sexual humor is one of the more universal forms of comedy.

If the enemy is unwilling to cooperate why go for a middle solution that will let them try again when Conservatives fall out of power instead of a Final Solution?

Trump pardoned literal conmen for things way worse than Hunter had done and no one noticed or cared.

can you give us some names, please?

to add to what SteveKirk already said that I agree 100% with, I would consider the poor smuck on twitter that was sounding the alarm about the poor messaging for men days before the election, for which he was dragged by his own side (can't remember his handle, but he had his 15 min of fame), as a more valuable signal than the Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias of the world.

if you couldn't stop the bully when you pleaded with him, what makes you think that finger wagging at the the victim will stop her from retaliating?

If the choice is a 5-10 year wait or hop the fence, I don’t think you can act shocked when a lot of people jump the fence.

there are people that have no path to inmigrate legaly to the US, be that a 5-10 year wait list or 2 weeks, and that their only way forward is through fence hopping. Think gang members, non-skilled people, minors, etc. the only way to stop them is going to be enforcing the border one way or another.

I don’t recall anything that could be considered a mistake from her.

she laughably refers several times to project 2025 in connection to Trump and repeats the debunked "fine people on both sides" story.

“Honestly, I think you are going to have to let go a little bit or she might go crazy after she gets out yalls house. All of her behavior was appropriate for a 17 year old. I was doing these things at 17. Almost all of my high school and the high school down the road were doing these things. And worse…. The way you go forwards is going to determine whether you are in her adult life.”

There’s a significant attitude of “Teens are going to engage in risky behaviors no matter what, your punishments and restrictions will have zero deterrent effect, and the best course of action is some kind of harm reduction.”

I'm more of the opinion that it is preferable to not be in their life when they aren't your responsibility anymore, than being present in their funeral when they still are. That sub sounds like a bunch of childless kidults with a "hello, fellow kids" attitude.

I get the feeling that a lot of these people wanted to speak up more loudly sooner, but it was only once progressives were properly on the back foot that they felt empowered to do so.

that sounds like cowardice, that they were unwilling to breach the party line, up until the catastrophe befell them and everyone was scrambling, like a chicken with its head cut off, asking what happened. Personally I would look for the lefties that didn't care to be excommunicated from the party and searched for the truth. After all, what good is a yes man?.

it's principal agent problem all the way to the top. The mistake often done in these kinds of discussions is assuming that the news reporter or the editor and journalist in the news room cares about the bottom line of the corporation. The only ones that do are the CEO and the bean counters in the finance room; everyone else cares about other things (ideology) as it isn't their job to make sure their business is profitable enough to make payroll.

These guys will likely have my back against this supposed muslim takeover anyway!

what is more probable to happen is that the Latin kings will close off their neighborhoods (like they did during the summer of love) when the islamists begin to act up and you will be one of the first to appear in the local newspaper.

even if it isn't a perfect solution; this is one of the reasons for why I shop for games in GOG almost exclusively.

but even if filled, the progs will do their march again, pushing conservatives out under false pretenses (be it #metoo2, racism accusations, or a new moral panic). And what I think the conversation is about razing the institution instead of freezzing it.

in your estimation, do you think this party will remain small for the foreseeable future?

really nice write up, thanks for the effort. By the way Madoka has a series of Movies from which the last one "Rebellion" is a continuation of sorts for the series and there is a new movie announced to follow the storyline.