“Jenni Hermoso”
Normative determinism* takes an L. Old and mid, even without the tatuajes feos.
Of course Hermoso, her hanger-ons, and mainstream media will try to over-dramatise and wring every drop of clout, attention, and idpol victimhood as they can out of this. However, I can’t muster up much sympathy for Rubiales either.
Like he couldn’t rein in his thirst for just a bit? With his high status position, he could had banged one of her hotter teammates a few hours later. Or better yet, even hotter unaffiliated chicks.
ESH.
*At least it isn’t “Jenni Hermosa,” which would sound like she could be an all-too-common latina camwhore “modelo de cam”.
Sloot
11mo ago
I find the idea of women's sports chuckle-worthy, about the same tier of interest as the Little Leagues. Aww, you poor things, incapable of standing up in absolute terms, let's make a nice carveout for you so that you can say you tried.
Unfathomably based.
At least in tennis you have something sexy to look at.
As Sailer likes to remark from time to time, the most popular men’s sports are like a stand-in for war, the most popular women’s sports are like beauty contests.
And the women are happy to oblige. Hence why female indoor volleyball players wear skin tight booty shorts to spend much of their time bent over in the ready position, women’s MMA has a well-trodden MMA -> e-thot -> OnlyFans pipeline, and many female tennis players are more than eager to engage in some Instathottery. Kournikova walked so Bouchard could run.
It sounds like you already know what to do. Attraction is not a choice; your girlfriend’s a hater.
You will not convince her, as you haven’t already. You can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t logic themselves into, especially a girlfriend.
She's rather be middle class in the UK, unable to afford air-conditioning, living in a tiny house, watching our salaries erode into nothingness, and then, if Sunak successfully makes doctors into a thin wrapper for GPT-5, potentially resign ourselves to a life of mediocrity, or worse, come back to India with our tails between our legs where we'd have to settle for working shit jobs with longer hours and worse pay.
Sure, maybe she’d be cool without air-conditioning, with a tiny house, with your salaries disappearing into the ether. However, if she won’t be cool with it, it’d only get blamed upon you. It’ll likely only get worse from here.
Stupid self_made_human, ugh, I can’t even. Our house is small, without omnipresent airconditioning, and we aren’t even saving up a bag. Plus these blokes keep hitting me up on Insta, Tinder, and chatting me up in the street…
I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.
When The Motte was on Reddit, there was a post about women possibly having a... personalised... take on what they experience relative to reality. Was the post-author... you? A childhood magazine was involved, I believe, and AOC was invoked (not in the magazine, but the comment/post, or maybe in the replies).
In combination between that post, my experiences, one of the last comments from Namrok on women being possibly p-zombies, @WhiningCoil 's recent comment on 'white-knuckling' it, and other sources such as a comment here about wishful female thinking, there is maybe something to this as to a wider unified hypothesis.
Sloot
10mo ago
I can very much understand people not wanting this garbage on their doorstep. If nothing else, it makes it much, much harder to recommend anything here to outsiders.
"Oh, the Motte, that's the site with the Nazis" - that's not a reaction one particularly wants to deal with, is it?
If “Jewish Question”-type threads are keeping such outsiders away, then those threads are features, not bugs, and kings like SecureSignals are doing God’s work in helping to keep pearl-clutching scolds away.
There is some precedence in the zombie genre of something like that working, caking yourself with mud/shit/[stinky substance] to sneak by zombies.
And hobos are basically irl zombies, dangerous single-minded animated corpses in varying stages of rot and decay. There are slow and fast kinds, and they can be inhumanly strong and determined for they lack normal human restraint and self-preservation. If an encounter unfortunately arises, sometimes they’ll leave you alone if you don’t make any noises or sudden movements, but other times you might just be SOL and have to defend yourself. It’s over if you get bitten by one. A hobo bite would cause massive poison damage on top of physical.
Seems like an effective strategy. 'I put myself out there and everyone hates me. Oh how vulnerable a woman I am at the moment.'
It’d be pretty typical female online double-dipping.
I attempted to attention whore, but some people were mean to me and now I am sad. Please show your support and let you and them fight.
I chuckled seeing the usually laconic Cowen warn: “not interested in comments mocking Katja, put them somewhere else, I will delete them”
Would you rather your daughter grow up into a slut or an old maid?
False dichotomy… a slut daughter could very well end up being an old, barren maid.
What if she is your only child?
That’s the neat part about having multiple children. If a daughter ends up being a hoe, at least you have other children (hopefully sons) to diversify your portfolio and take the sting out of having a hoe daughter.
That question is delightfully evil in many ways. Great bait. It’s like a spiritual follow-up to “World to end: Women, minorities hardest hit.”
If sampling among an option and slight cheating is allowed, I’ll select myself and eleven #6’s (eleven 21-year-old female Muslim students).
If selecting myself is disallowed, I’d altruistically send a brother or cousin in my stead, or two, three, or four of them with ten, nine, or eight 21-year-old female Muslim students.* Enjoy your mini-harem bros, try not to Eskimo brother too much.
Otherwise, if those twelve individuals are genus Homo’s last hope, I’d prefer spending my remaining time and energy with family instead of spending even a sliver of time and energy selecting among those options. Seeing those options, I’d be more than fine with Homo de-existing.
Any selection thereof would almost certainly run into effective population size issues, anyway.
*For humanity’s sake, that’d probably be better than just sending myself and 11 Muslim waifus. Me solo’ing it could end up like a greentext:
>be me, humanity’s last hope with 11 Muslim waifus on new planet
>somehow manage to knock-up all of them
>distracted by non-Muslim Earth harlots who keep hitting me up on Tinder and Insta due to my new-found fame (many of their photos are absolutely haram)
>terraforming, gardening, agriculture, and animal husbandry are boring
>tell myself I’ll train an AI to take care of those things one of these days
>not today, though, maybe tomorrow
>we finish the freeze dried beef jerky from Earth so I start passing around the packets of pork jerky
>spend my time shit-posting on the internet and refreshing my brokerage and retirement accounts that are no longer of any use to me
>waifus die due to lack of sustenance
>mfw
Nothing, really.
But it makes women feel less Wonderful, less of Strong Independent #BossBabes, the thought that they’re but passive objects, NPCs or lootboxes, for which men can strategize or play the numbers game.
Courtship and romance, from the view of women generally, should be something that just happens like a magical act of God.
Dealing with female passivity, flakiness, and fickleness, the female inability and indifference to uphold their word, is a common source of frustration for men that transcends time and space when it comes to dating.
Even after carpet-bombing messages on social media and/or OLD, cold-approach grinding, or the stars aligning such that your social circle gifts you with a prospect, you still need to perform the scheduling battleship and text-message jiu-jitsu to get a given girl to agree to a date. And even after she agrees, in the hours leading up to a date, it’s very possible she’ll cancel, ghost, or request to reschedule. Of course, if you call her out for her lack of accountability and trustworthiness, you’d be the weird anti-social asshole questioning her Wonderfulness, Lived Experience, and Emotional Truth.
There are no magic words, no "one weird trick"s. Check-in too little prior to a date and she might bail under the excuse that she didn’t hear from you, supposedly presuming you lost interest or that the date was off. Check-in too much and it might give her the ick, that you’re too insecure, obsessed, or pressuring.
As the time of the date approaches, aside from being late and/or flaking, a lot of girls will also exploit the fact that you’re basically a hostage waiting for them. At the last minute, a lot of them will try to re-plan the date such that you have to spend maximal time and money, and with minimal chances of her putting out. “Actually, can we meet at [expensive restaurant] instead?”
A lot of them will claim to run late with minimal communication and then cancel while you’re continuing to wait for them. Unfortunately or fortunately, a lot of them will also claim to run late with minimal communication before showing up. This is why I angle for the first date to occur at my place: Logistics to get the bang, more cost-effective, I can wait at my place instead of having gone somewhere if she’s running late, “running late,” cancels and/or ghosts.
The only real defense for a man is playing the numbers game and having enough prospects to diversify. It’s less devastating if your Tuesday night flakes when you still have Wednesday and Thursday night dates scheduled with other girls. Easier to drop your Saturday night if she plays hardball and insists on meeting at a restaurant, when you have a Sunday afternoon. Eventually one will come through.
Furthermore, one can schedule two dates the same day (e.g., 1PM and 7PM), such that if the earlier cancels you at least have the latter one. If the latter one cancels later on, at least you had the earlier one. If things go poorly with the 1PM, you still have the 7PM. If things go well with the 1PM at a slow pace, you can cancel on the 7PM. If things go really well with the 1PM at a fast pace, you can escort her out and go forth with the 7PM date.
Staggering dates is also an option. For example, scheduling an early afternoon date with one girl at 1PM, and the other at 3PM. If the 1PM girl shows up, great, and you cancel on the 3PM. If the 1PM flakes you might still have the 3PM.
One can also double book (or more), scheduling two dates at the same time with different girls. This way it helps increase the chances that one of them shows up. Once you have a fair degree of confidence that one will show-up, you can cancel on the other. Although, meanwhile, the one who you think will show-up might just flake on you at the last moment. The more GigaChad maneuver would be to have both show-up, where they can fight over you and/or you go for the threesome.
Canceling and/or floating reschedules on girls is risky, as they’ll act like you violated the Geneva Convention in offending their Princess Complex (even though they wouldn’t have given the slightest of fucks to flake on you), which could lead to you losing a hard-earned prospect.
There’s no reason to go easy and Be A Decent Person and/or Be a Gentleman. Young women are more than okay with wasting your time, money, energy. Not only are they largely indifferent to your time, a lot of them put a negative value on it. Wasting your time, money, energy, feeds their vanity and sense of validation. Many women will brag about it: “Only here to be spoiled," “Buy me food and tell me I’m pretty," “Just here to waste your time,” reads many a female online dating profile.
Young women are basically bratty children when it comes to scheduling and flaking. It’s essentially a survival tactic if you want to see a girl again, to bang her ASAP. This way she at least has skin in the game and will be more of a teammate in scheduling and coordinating.
Sloot
8mo ago
I would be shocked if anyone is reading anything in the profile at all. Other than swiping purely based on pictures. See: all those tinder experiments where the bio literally talks about being a child predator and a laundry list of other felonies with pictures of a male model and still gets 100s of thirsty chicks in the dm.
Even more black-pilling: Many of those chicks did read the profile and were still more than down to get railed.
What kind of misogynistic incel prompt is this?
The past is the past. Just because a woman is sexually experienced or has been a sex worker doesn’t make her any less deserving of a proper engagement ring, a wedding of her dreams in front of all their friends and family, a lifetime of love, devotion and commitment. Her experiences of being a sex worker, her experiences with random app hook-ups, only contributed to her growth and maturation as a woman, and made her a more fulfilling partner for your friend. A journey that led her to meeting him. After all of her experiences being a sex worker and having casual sex, she still chose your friend to spend the rest of her life with, so he’s the winner here. The men of her past are missing out on her company, her partnership, her actualization as a woman.
Joking, of course.
It’s somewhat of a fiduciary duty to voice any concerns to friends and family if they’re about to make life-changing decisions. If Alice were a child molester or false rape accuser, or someone deep in dept, surely many would agree that you should have a “Come to Jesus” moment with your friend Bob. Why not her historical hoetry? Especially since it triggers the male ick, an ick that generally increases with the length of a woman's sexuality (much less prostitution), especially for commitment.
If you’ve already voiced your objections once or twice, then you’ve already done your part. It’s tough talking a man out of being pussy-whipped or cunt-struck, talking him out of one-itis. Additional reminders may only result in the messenger (you) being metaphorically shot, as it could be perceived as nagging. And few people like naggers.
Women wouldn’t be nearly as cautious, charitable, or merciful if the script were flipped. If your friend had used prostitutes before, done some sexual experimentation with other men, done some SEA-maxxing, a hypothetical normie (non-prostitute) fiancée’s friends would hardly grant him any charity. Or if he gave them any other ick, for that matter, such as being short or poor. They might find more subtle ways to express this ick to the girlfriend, though, such as undercutting sayings like “if you two have a son he’d be so cute and fun-sized like your boyfriend” or “aww, it’s so charming how your fiancé likes cozy houses and modest cars.”
The female ick is far more transmittable than the male ick given preselection and female male-choice copying, the general susceptibility of women to social influences. A woman is much more likely to acquire a sense of ick for her boyfriend from her female friends’ feedback than a man is for his girlfriend from his male friends’ feedback.
You should also consider whether you want to be friends with him going forward. Couples are basically a package. If you continue your friendship with him, this woman will likely spend time in your house, spend time with your wife/girlfriend, spend time with any children that you have now or in the future (especially daughters). Is this something you’d be comfortable with? I’d personally prefer not to have former prostitutes in my house, much less interacting with a wife/girlfriend or children (as mentioned, especially daughters).
Sloot
5mo ago
Wait, you guys are using condoms with one night stands? were_the_millers.jpg
I’m definitely team rawdog and second @Ioper’s remark on condomed sex as eating candy with the wrapper on, a saying of which I hadn’t heard before now.
If I feel like I need a condom with a chick, her slutiness to hotness ratio is too high and I shouldn’t be banging her in the first place.
Sloot
8mo ago
A confounding factor is that she’s no spring chicken at this point, well on the wrong side of 30.
You’ve also likely seen her engaged in various degrees of hoetry across multiple films, which may have killed any sort of warm feeling you might otherwise have had toward her, potentially even inducing a sense of male ick.
How much muscle is ideal for a man?
How much height or wealth is ideal for a man? Height doesn’t matter, as long as you’re 6’6” or over. Similar principle with regard to muscle.
At what point does lifting weights become detrimental?
Pretty much never, unless you’re blasting a gram+ of testosterone a week with other anabolics in the mix, and lifting weights as a full-time job.
What is the ideal proportion of body weight to be able to bench/squat/deadlift/overhead press for a man with healthy bodyfat?
As much as possible, especially bench and/or OP.
For the most part, there’s no too much strength or muscle, just as there’s not too much height or wealth. Especially when it comes to dating and/or relationship management with women, basically never are there negative returns with regard to additional status/dominance signals.
Sloot
10mo ago
Right. Just like one doesn't have to be a pearl-clutching scold in order to simply not want to hang out in the place with the various 'ists and 'phobes.
Sloot
1yr ago
I have no doubt you’re a fun, funny dude irl, but “tall” might doing most of the work here.
It’s basically a meme at this point that women—consciously or subconciously—downplay the importance of height and oversell the importance of other characteristics to look/feel more wonderful. “What attracted me to my boyfriend is his sense of humor and him being a great listener. It just so happens that he’s 6’3”! Teehee.”
Sloot
9mo ago
Oh, how heckin magnanimous of you not to report, friend. Very wholesome.
If not for the “no, u” remark about being a hater, I would had thought this comment was meant elsewhere.
This is merely isolated policing of “thrust” engagement. I engaged; you just didn’t like the content of the engagement. At least ten of the paragraphs in OPs post were directly talking about the girlfriend, albeit granted some of the paragraphs were short.
So come on now, less of this mod-LARPing and passive aggressive condescension please.
Sloot
11mo ago
Solid overview.
However, some of those points might be better characterised as black-pilled nowadays. Also—soft, euphemistic blue-pill language is somehow leaking through: e.g., “sleeping with”.
Sloot
1yr ago
By coincidence, I already posted a Chris Rock link in this thread.
However, there's also another relevant Rock bit on conditional/unconditional love. "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something."
Sloot
17d ago
Sounds like Paige Harden.
WOULD, btdubs.
Parsimonious hypothesis: An aspect of male heterosexuality is wanting to see his female partner, whether temporary or long term, degrade herself sexually—and a key aspect of female heterosexuality is wanting to oblige.
In more “ordinary” circumstances, this is for his physical benefit, and may manifest itself in her doing ball-licking, rimming, gagging throatfucks, anal, facials, and the like. In more extraordinary circumstances, this may result in BLACKED-adjacent behavior and beastiality—the ordinary going haywire and defective. And these are all reflected in porn.
So if, on a rainy day, I whack it to an old POV sex-tape of myself banging some chick, that would be intertemporal cucking? Reminds me of the Time Traveler’s Wife.
It’s an amusing Ship of Theseus type thought experiment: Most of the cells in “my” body have likely been replaced since then. Oftentimes, then-me even sounds different and jests differently in the
skippable introductory cut-scenesbeginning few minutes than I do/would now, which sometimes catches current-me off-guard and makes current-me laugh with the jokes by then-me.Soon some of my old personal phone videos could qualify as period pieces, if they don’t already. It’s also pretty funny many of those chicks are married now.
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