ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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2hr ago
Reality check: Iranians say مرگ بر آمریک. The literal translation is "Death to America." The Arabic الموت لأمريكا likewise translates literally as "Death to America." There is no "translation issue"
Reality check: That's not how translation works.
Were there? Because I don’t recall any of that and I’m European and old enough to have watched the second plane hit WTC live on BBC at work.
So am I, and I kinda remember some of my friend group going "fuck them". Though we were all retarded teenagers at the time, and I don't remember much of what the adults were saying. 4bpp is European too.
ArjinFerman
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2hr ago
No, I am, in fact, a conspiracy theorist.
ArjinFerman
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2hr ago
Sure there is. Conspiracies are what drive the world, and the view that it's instead driven by some "organic" Brownian motion is completely without evidence, or reason to assume as true by default.
The psy op in question is plainly observable from all the top-down messaging of our society, from the education system to the media.
ArjinFerman
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11hr ago
The obvious fix for an increased parental age would be for the state to pay for the harvesting and cryo-conversation of gametes of young adults and IVF a few decades later when they want to become parents.
This is literally breaking a leg to sell a crutch. How about we just stop with the insane anti-natal psy-ops instead?
ArjinFerman
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14hr ago
Hope everyone here is ok as well.
I think most people here are lucky enough to live outside of active war zones. Stay safe!
ArjinFerman
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14hr ago
I'd imagine most of them are of voting age simply because that's around when you start getting into politics. Some start earlier (I think for me it was around 16), but even then that's a skip and a jump away from being able to vote.
ArjinFerman
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15hr ago
I mean, if you go with Putin's explanations on that Tucker Carlson interview...
ArjinFerman
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15hr ago
aside from the three who fell to Kuwaiti friendly fire?
What is the evidence that it was friendly fire, by the way?
...I guess the logic there is that a crisis hits, and the army has to pick sides?
I actually don't know what the logic is, it's just a poll I've seen people discuss, don't know if any respondents had a chance to elaborate on their thinking.
but note how all action still routes through the state.
We're Europeans, please be patient with us.
Have you seen the clips where Farage categorically rejects the idea of mass deportations?
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There was a time when people would have laughed at the idea of calling George W Bush a Blue.
Yeah, I did, but this is kinda what I meant with "similar gripes". Yeah, Europe might be stuck in a doom-loop, where the liberal establishment does something insane, people vote against it, and what they voted for turns out to be containment. I'll even happily admit the Farage is even more worrying here, because it's a bad sign when he doesn't even wait to win before stabbing his supporters in the back, but the general patterns can be observed even in Trump.
I think Bush is a point in my favor here. My point is that even though he turned out to be Blue, people voting for him wanted someone Red, so their support for him should counted towards the Red Tribe.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Are we looking at the same chart? They're leading by 7 points. The Greens are a bigger threat at this point.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Yes? All this sponsoring has done far less damage to the region and to Europe than American operations. I'm yet to hear a good reason why this should be a blip on anyone's radar.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
it doesn't seem to me that there's a European analogue to the Christian Right
Mostly correct.
or to Gun Culture in terms of relatively-large, cohesive and politically-powerful subcultures
Correct.
The UK right is pretty clearly willing to accept the left's electoral victory.
Also (...mostly...) correct. Yeah, Europeans aren't as good at bottom-up organizing, and there isn't anything resembling the American Red Tribe alternative culture and institutions, I just think you're going a bit far when Mr. Brexit is making a credible bid for prime minister, and you're calling it an "intra-Blue conflict".
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
Does the UK right imagine themselves as patiently waiting, playing politics while the electorate learns the correct lessons? They don't give off an appearance of being that serious or prepared to me.
I know these polls are volatile -- more like (dis)approval polls of the current boss than anything else -- but stakes are potentially very high.
Yes, but keep in mind that it's not just about Greens overtaking Labour, it's also about Reform (Nigel Farage's party) overtaking the Tories. It's hard to frame that as "patiently waiting" IMO.
The UK can afford that better than we can because they are not as polarized; their current situation is a conflict within the local Blue Tribe analogue, with no significant Red Tribe to speak of.
I don't think that's fair. The European Red Tribe isn't going to look the same as the American one, and while the hard right has it's gripes with Farage, they aren't that different from the American hard right's gripes with the Republicans. On top of that, there's Lowe, who might not be polling high, but ir doesn't seem fair to call him insignificant.
That said, I think you're right about the "can afford" bit. Starting a new party in Europe, even in a first past the post system like the UK's, seems to be doable with a lot less friction than in a giant country like the US.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
No tinkering for me this week.
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
On a spiritual and cultural level Maga is something far more sick, ugly and deranged than Nazism.
If that's the case, the entire American culture is worse than Nazism. You can trivially find Blue counterparts for "recognizing no concept of dignity whatsoever".
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Too modern for my tastes.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Individual responsibility, not collective blame.
Since when?
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
The blue tribe has generally been good to Jews, does that need much explaining?
Yes, actually. The most fanatical support for Israel and Jewish people in general seems to be coming from a particular brand of Evangelical Christianity, not the Blue Tribe. If lack of support for Christians is supposed to be explained by Christianity rhyming with Nazism, the Blue Tribe rhymes with should prevent support for them as well.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
That hardly explains why they'd prefer infinity Muslims, or the Blue tribe.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
Well, they're not a monolith. Some of them wanted such radical actions, some were opposed, some indifferent.
Okay, so if so few of them cared about it, their request should have been denied. Opt-out's entire point ia that if we're going to engage in such radical actions, they should come with the corresponding support from the community.
My overall point is that, even though Jews in Western countries have been moving a bit to the right recently, white-dominated right-wing populist movements probably have, to a Jewish perspective, so much historical baggage that I don't expect 80% of Jews to support them any time in the near future.
And my point is that given the movements they actually supported that perspective is unreasonable. If these movements can be somehow seen as "not a big deal" so can the populist right.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
These two issues were relevant enough for them to (successfully) lobby for state actions like deportations and withdrawal of government funds. If they were such a small issue that they don't warrant any reciprocical support, their requests should have been denied. Hell, they should not have made them in the first place.
Blue tribe doesn't have the connotations of "stupid angry white hicks who will come to our village and pogrom us".
How so? They're the ones doing all the "antisemitic" protests that they were complaining so much about.
The Muslim immigration doesn't seem like a viscerally real, tangible problem
Then why were they complaining so much about all the people celebrating October 7th?
Any attempt at establishing sometihng like this, that ensures it can't just be taken from you when convenient, is deliberately attacked.
Maybe Russia. Most of Eastern Europe is just a few years behind the program.
I can give you a list of examples, but surely you understand that a question like "what is evil, exactly?" is a bit unreasonable?
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