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1d ago
Is there some argument against the "some are, some aren't; depends on ancestry" position other than the "race doesn't exist" SJ-adjacent one?
AOC is obviously not supermajority-white-and-Asian, so it's not surprising that someone only attracted to whites/Asians has reduced attraction to her.
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1d ago
Reasonable points.
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2d ago
No, it'd be in trouble because half its adherents would become, to borrow your phrase, charcoal briquettes.
If law and order disintegrated, lots of the survivors would then get shot.
The relevance of impeachment (in scenarios in which the USA doesn't fail, which are quite likely) is that if unlocked (which it likely would be due to the aforementioned charcoal briquettes being unable to vote) it allows a total purge of the judiciary and major purge of the civil service, because of how hilariously open-ended it is (Congress doesn't have to spend weeks on each case; 900 cases in a day is totally legal!). That turns a major defeat into a total rout.
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2d ago
The next Dem president can easily ruin him.
I will note that Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. already did declare Fair Game on Elon Musk and Musk was the one who wound up getting Biden fired.
I'm not saying that there aren't ways that USG could dispose of Elon Musk, but it wouldn't be trivial or cost-free.
IMO we have won a few battles, but the fundamentals look weak to actually win against woke.
The fundamental of "does not live in a nuclear target" is a fairly-important one with the Doomsday Clock where it is. Do note that SJ would likely not be able to concede ground quickly enough in the aftermath of that to prevent the Serious Business tools from being handed over to its enemies - in the USA, Constitutional amendment and impeachment.
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2d ago
I will note that "trans still exists" could be read not only as "transsexuals still exist", but also as "trans ideology still exists", and even "substantial official deference to trans ideology still exists".
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2d ago
Now imagine a counterfactual world wherein Nazism went into retreat, without being so aggressively stigmatised. After the war, the Nazi party was no longer in power, but politicians elected as party members during its peak make no especial effort to distance themselves from their electoral pasts: indeed, many politicians proudly self-identify as Nazis, and openly announce their intent to seek election under a Nazi platform. Academics with cushy university jobs hang swastika flags in their offices, and no one so much as raps them on the knuckles. While most Germans have gotten back into the habit of greeting each other with "Guten tag", a handful still use "Heil Hitler", and this is treated essentially as an amusing anachronistic idiosyncrasy, like someone who persists in referring to the internet as the "world wide web". Whenever Nazi atrocities are brought up in public, the reaction among those responsible is not solemn contrition but flippant dismissal: "ha ha, we sure did get a bit carried away, didn't we?" And whenever Jews complain that open expressions of support for this ideology make them uncomfortable, people roll their eyes and tell them to stop moaning. We had the Nuremberg trials, the party is no longer in power – what more do you want? Let the baby have its bottle.
Isn't this basically just a description of Japan? Like, seriously, read the WP article on Nippon Kaigi; most of the things you've stated have an exact parallel mentioned in that one article.
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5d ago
opposing "it's okay to be white", which they are wholly justified in doing.
The Left does not believe that whites should be ashamed "for the color of their skin", but for the innumerable crimes they have committed against non-whites* in the 500 years since they set out from Europe to gain their globally advantageous position.
I think that the latter reduces to the former, in addition to baking in another problem and thus being even more objectionable.
Specifically, to get to "being white implies responsibility for all the crimes whites have committed" requires two premises:
- People can be held responsible for the actions of other people
- The relevant criterion to use for assessing such guilt is skin colour.
#2 must be skin colour (or other "racial" traits, but asking people to feel guilty for having e.g. thin lips or blond hair raises 100% of the same issues), not closeness of blood relation, as for any given white criminal (e.g. a slaveowner) there usually are some "non-white" people more closely related to him (e.g. the descendants of the bastards he sired by raping his slaves) than some white people.
And #1 is a whole other can of worms which most modern Westerners find barbaric.
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5d ago
“Jet fuel can't melt steal beams”
“If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?”
Both of these are solid observations, there's just nuance they're missing. Specifically, "but it can soften them" and "only some of the monkeys evolved into us" respectively.
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6d ago
They recognize a loaded question, or outrage bait, and try not to walk into the minefield. Sometimes this works out. Sometimes it looks cringey and gives the baiters what they wanted. Regardless, it doesn’t require lunacy or cowardice or even cognitive dissonance.
I'm pretty sure "refusing to charge into a minefield" does technically qualify as cowardice.
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6d ago
Including the circumflex? What does that signify?
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7d ago
I downvote uncivil posts, and your initial post seemed to say that downvoting for any reason was senseless, so I felt the need to object.
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8d ago
TBF, "genocide" - etymologically "the killing of genes" - is indeed accomplished by mass sterilisation, although not by mental trauma.
"Massacre" and "extermination" seem like words you might want to use.
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8d ago
I will note that there is the option of declaring tabula rasa - where history is not abandoned as a project, but the current crop of historians do not have the ability to select their replacements and thus there is no continuity. The extreme version of this would be throwing out all the members of history departments, and then creating new history departments ex nihilo in 5 years to figure out what's true from scratch (according current historian qualifications zero weight when re-initialising).
I'm not saying that this is clearly optimal - it does still have costs - but it's an option that needs to be considered when you're thinking about best-alternative-to-reform.
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8d ago
It's overused, but I don't really see the problem with downvoting uncivil posts.
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8d ago
There is also the trans issue. Going as hardline as you did on it in that post - literally using it as an example of obvious absurdity - gets more upvotes than downvotes here, but it does get some downvotes.
(I'm not one of the people who downvoted that post.)
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8d ago
How do you intend to keep The Motte from suffering the same fate as Reddit, Wikipedia, Google, open source, academia, journalism, science fiction fandom, or any of the other countless formerly neutral and now totally ideologically captured institutions?
It's worth noting that most of those got at least partially captured by SJ before SJ was recognised as a threat, so that by the time anyone saw what was happening it was too late. This isn't the right threat model for an expanded-Motte. The right threat model for an SJ threat to an expanded-Motte is mostly outright legal action that debanks it or forces it to hire a saboteur "diversity officer", with a side of the cancellation playbook (much of which is now neutered by alt-tech, but not quite all).
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13d ago
THANK YOU!
I recognised her from a 7.5-year-old video that I'd failed to find 2.5 years ago, and was able to fulfil my IOU-a-source.
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13d ago
I went looking for this video I saw way back where an obviously-SJ woman basically spends 10 minutes saying that paedophiles are horrible creeps even if they don't molest, but I can't find it; sorry.
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15d ago
"few remaining principled free speech advocates", as much as I agree with it, is rabble-rousing rhetoric. Ditto "Whether this helps or hurts her electoral chances will remain to be seen." and the drive-by well-poisoning in paragraphs 10 and 11.
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15d ago
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IIRC Uwe Boll was making bad movies on purpose as part of some scheme to generate tax deductions and receive subsidies (as essentially an RL Springtime for Hitler). If he's stopped deliberately sabotaging his movies, well, that'd explain a jump in quality.
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15d ago
widely ridiculed on the right as obviously ugly, with attendant counter-signaling on the left against any sense of objective beauty
I think that's harsh. I think I'd probably put Nyong'o in the top percentile of majority-sub-Saharan-African women I've ever seen. The blackwash is objectionable, and one of the multiple reasons is that absent SJ threats on the judges no SSA woman could ever win Helen's canonical status of "most beautiful woman in the world", but they don't seem to have selected for ugliness over and above the blackwash.
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16d ago
Otherwise eligible men who are too busy with videogames should quit the gaming and start dating seriously.
most societies in history have attempted to discourage it.
I will note that unlike most societies in history, a lot of this class can't "just get a GF" at present. We've broken matchmaking by moving it onto dating sites, which are a lemon market. We've encouraged women not to settle until their biological clock's nearly run out. "Beatings will continue until X" only actually works if the person you're beating is the one who chooses if X happens.
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16d ago
Plausibly yes. The impact of innovation might be on a logistic curve as we vacuum up all the low-hanging fruit, but the patent numbers are sufficient to demonstrate that immigration rates don't have an effect on people having ideas.
They are not, for two reasons:
- Patents have become more internationalised over time;
- A fraction of patents are bogus (yes, I know this is granted patents, but a lot of them are still bogus) and it is plausible that this fraction has increased.
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17d ago
TBC, I'm basically a 90s liberal/Grey Triber; you don't need to sell me on it.
AOC has African blood as well, or at least she claims to and it seems likely from looking at her. (So do a decent chunk of Hispanics.)
Native Americans are definitely far more closely related to whites and Asians than any of those are to Africans, Austronesians or Australian aboriginals (they're of North Asian descent), and I agree it can be hard to tell apart a white+NA Hispanic from a pure white.
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