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Tangential, but have we gotten any reliable information on the weapon used? From the one picture reposted everywhere, I figured 30-06. Now tabloids are saying 8mm Mauser. Weird either way. After the tacticool Butler gun and Routh’s trap house special, are we going to get a third style? Is the next assassin going to use a spetsnaz knife?
It depends on how much you’re already boozemaxxing. What’s your star sign?
Presumably, it’s the same thing which kept Trump I from sending the FBI after them in 2020, when they were actually doing stuff. While I don’t take Trump as a principled Bill of Rights enthusiast, he doesn’t seem to have thought he could make it stick.
Lone-wolf assassins are a pretty stupid reason to change that legal strategy. Guilt by association requires, you know, association. Our best chance on that front is the July 4 ambush, where at least one of the perpetrators “met someone online” who encouraged them.
If it turns out that Rose City or whoever was funding these psychos, even talking to them—there’s your justification. Throw the book at them. But if not, you’re just making an excuse for something you already wanted to do. That’s unjust.
Re: Gundam, what’s special about two arms? Robits are strong, and I’m not even sure which beam weapons have recoil. If one has more than two arms, how many of them have to be used to qualify as a rifle?
I propose that the deciding factor is whether or not there’s a stock (or brace; ATF be damned) behind the grip. But Gundam variants are worse than Pokémon, so I assume there’s plenty of weird models that violate this scheme.
Unrelated, but “declaring the property blighted” has got to be one of the cooler turns of phrase for city bureaucrats. I’m sure they’re thrilled to break that one out.
This sounds like a @coffee_enjoyer theory.
And while I’m loath to put too much stock in any categorization, just because it’s not presecriptive doesn’t mean it’s not descriptive.
CW or not, it is allowed in the Sunday thread!
Something tells me the kind of guy taking potshots at ICE isn’t on that sigma grindset.
- “oh god oh fuck they’re turning around I can’t spend life in prison”
It feels so weird because you’re a reasonable person. Most people who go out and shoot at strangers are not.
You don’t need to appeal to imaginary mind control tech and shadow agencies to explain it.
Yes. I sorted that list in order of descending agreeability. I expect most people would find the first reasonable, which is probably why Democrats are actually doing it. Same for the second, except for the free-speech maximalists.
I probably should have made it a smoother gradient, but the question was genuine. What would “the left” have to do, in your mind, to show good faith?
It might work for the ICE attacks, where we have a clear policy, perpetrators in custody, and alignment with other groups. I’ll say that Democrats could and probably should do that. Make it clear that what the President is doing is legal and will be enforced, even if it’s challenged in Congress and court.
Not so much for the assassins. No surviving perpetrators. No conspirators at all. No comparable groups to discredit, no social networks to ban, no pet issues to excise from the party planks. Maybe not even an appetite for restricting the means.
The shortage of obvious targets is what moves it from table stakes to absurdity. You’ve either got to double down on the most similar cases—Luigi?—or widen your criteria. And widening them enough to punish all of antifa, the Democratic Party, or “the left”…that’s going too far. I understand that it feels natural for an average Republican to make that equivalence, but I believe it’s wrong.
If such a shooting happens, that flip-flop is basically guaranteed. So is the corresponding flop-flip.
I don’t see why either would contradict Goodguy’s statement about prevalence.
Hey, I thought the point of ice bullets was that they didn’t leave evidence!
Maybe I shouldn’t joke about this. It’s tragic, and disturbing, and speaks to an increased temperature in the lunatic fringe. Nothing good can come of it. As such, I’m not going to make excuses for the fucker.
Instead, I want to ask y’all what “the left” should be doing. What constitutes a “serious attempt to resolve” this situation? Does it involve public disavowals by the leadership? Cancelling any streamer stupid enough to say something edgy? The DNC taking responsibility for a terrorist act like it’s al-Qaeda? Maybe some time in the stockades, or a few televised executions? What would it take for you to feel like “the left” was making a good-faith effort?
Because this isn’t it. Whatever detente you have in mind, I cannot imagine that it involves writing bitter essays about the inhumanity of conservative scum, their unwillingness to admit that there is a problem, the inevitability of consequences when they continue to overstep. That wouldn’t be healthy. It wouldn’t feel like you were winning at all.
You are eager to treat “the left” as one organism, one will, a mouth speaking platitudes while its hand fumbles for the knife. How dare they create this situation? How could they normalize the idea that their political opponents were isomorphic to subhuman monsters?
Don’t you see the symmetry?
You recognize that “the right” is barely a coherent category, but you fail to apply that knowledge to the outgroup. How does this double standard possibly improve the situation? How can you equivocate between the normies who disagree with you and the psychopath who pulls a trigger?
If—when—the roles are reversed, “the left” is going to write pieces just like yours. They’ll try to hold you responsible for whatever fuckwit decided to bomb a clinic or shoot a Democrat. You’ll rightly protest that you never had any control over the kind of person who would snap like that. And we’ll move one step closer to chaos.
My apologies, then.
I think if you’re rounding off Metoo’s most visible examples in favor of the modal supporter, the same standard should apply today. There just aren’t enough trans people to move the needle.
More broadly, I don’t believe you can gloss something as a class interest group just because its biggest support comes from that class. The demographics of soccer fans aren’t enough to make it a Hispanic interest group. They’re showing up for something else. College-educated women are disproportionately likely to be feminists because they’re wealthier, more independent, and better-informed. That doesn’t prevent them from having a broader interest. Feminism has a long history of backing women in different conditions. I don’t believe that’s changed.
Dude made it through COVID better than a lot of people in his weight class, too. Everybody talks about Butler as a timeline-branching point, but the world in which he died to COVID is even stranger.
Oh, come on. This is a pretty lazy sneer, and it's barely even coherent. Do you think #MeToo was about college?
And I could have sworn I'd seen you arguing trans violence stats were fake. It's not happening, but they're fixated on it anyway?
I’m no fan of Trump, but I’d caution against generalizing from one data point. I know he was looking sharp as of a couple months ago.
Any schadenfreude from watching our userbase try to forget two years of anti-Biden rants would probably be outweighed by the potential damage. Trump is erratic enough when he’s healthy. I hope he stays that way through his term.
You’re telling me that the right response to a nothingburger is to take it as evidence in favor of the next big reveal?
If RFK had better evidence, he’d have jumped on it. He’s already got the FDA, he’s got Trump in his corner. Building a “Trojan horse,” however that works, doesn’t buy him anything.
File this one with the UAP disclosures, the Epstein files, and the Second Coming. I predict you’re going to be disappointed.
You could go with the pre-2013 definition for classic autism. That’s the year in which it was merged with Asperger’s and some other developmental disorders. I don’t know that the establishment was wrong to combine them into a “spectrum disorder,” but it certainly changed the calculus for self-diagnosis.
It’s worth mentioning that the uptick in diagnoses was not, AFAICT, limited to photogenic “nerd++” autism. It also includes the 25-30% of cases which were classed as intellectually disabled. I find it much less likely that growth in this category is driven by self-diagnosis.
Imagine if we let people self-diagnose
I mean, we kind of do? At least to the same degree as ASD. No one can actually stop you from citing “anger issues” any more than they can gatekeep “depression” or “anxiety.” They have to rely on social cues to warn you if you’re about to be cringe.
Consider whether one particular cluster of personality traits might be less likely to take those hints.
Has that happened for literally any other protest fad?
If “trigger confidence” wasn’t enough to show up in mortality rates, this isn’t going to be any worse.
See also: “do you know who you’re dealing with?” and “am I being detained?”
Lots of people will do unreasonable things when they sense a dominance game.
I expected so, but I didn’t have data.
The current step on the euphemism treadmill is “profound autism.” Here’s a study on its prevalence. Figure 2 shows what looks like a doubling between 2002 and 2010; that’s slightly lower than the non-profound category. More importantly, the total sample of autistic kids was something like 25% profoundly autistic. That’s not a trivial fraction, and it doesn’t appear to have held steady as the weaker forms grew.
Considering risk of bias, I tried other studies. It was hard to find one that was both longitudinal and bothered to distinguish between severity. But according to the latter study, 38% of children with a ASD diagnosis had an intellectual disability. Again, not trivial.
I’m pretty sure that’s post hoc reasoning. It’s popular, probably because it dovetails nicely with the Trump’s general platform, but the timeline is wrong. Where was this argument during the fights over Obamacare? During the early-2000s measles resurgence? Even within Trump I, when people were suddenly deeply concerned with institutional capture, medical research was almost a non-issue.
It’s a referendum on COVID policy, plain and simple. Which really means it’s a referendum on Biden. The outcome was predetermined.
With all due respect, that’s fucking ridiculous.
Have you met someone with serious, not-the-photogenic-kind autism?
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Funny, the rest of this thread is insisting that the left still holds all the cards when it comes to cultural power. Where’d you get this idea?
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