sun_the_second
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sun_the_second
7mo ago
try to argue openly that Romeo and Juliet are evil for engaging in a wholly destructive act of lust that shirks all their duties, and see people jump to defend vehemently characters whose ostensible fate is death.
You've baited me here. Romeo and Juliet have, even in death, done a great deal towards mending a wholly destructive blood feud between their families; if Shakespeare wasn't writing a tragedy of errors they would have been successful. What good would their duties have done?
sun_the_second
7mo ago
I'm offering to do it myself, I just don't want to go through the process you describe as onerous yourself, if it will be met with an after-the-fact justification, and a refusal to change one's mind.
Very well. I'll copy sarker here. If you upload the image to Wikipedia and state that it's free use (similar to the Charleston example), I do not think it will be removed due to missing licensing info (which is what happened last time). If they do remove it again, for any reason, I'll grant that this case smells fishy and that you were correct to doubt it in spite of information that pointed towards lack of malice.
And by that logic I think that an organization that doesn't have a healthy balance of opinion in positions of influence will use their rules in a biased way.
There are different available degrees of confidence about this. "They'll be marginally quicker than usual to delete the picture if it clearly breaks the rules" is one degree. "They will not stop at anything to keep this picture off the wiki" is another.
Who told you the sample was ever random?
Looks random enough to me.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
Literally why would it?
If you begin with the premise that Wikipedia has a habit of deleting pictures politically under made-up pretenses, then sure, it wouldn't. You would reject any procedure they have and any amount of work they do that ostensibly furthers that procedure in non-political cases as just covering it up.
Also, why are you criticizing me for not changing my mind, when I'm proposing a test that would falsify my belief, and you're just looking for excuses to never change yours?
I expect someone who's seeking the truth to attempt to falsify their belief first, especially if they're well aware the test they proposed is onerous. What you're doing, on the other hand, is the equivalent of a flat earther who smugly offers their interlocutor to go to space and see for themselves. It's a strategy for winning pedant arguments, not truth-seeking.
I'm putting the onus on you because I believe my case is more plausible. When you hear hooves, you think horses, not zebras, and if you're convinced a malicious agent has replaced your random sample with 100% zebras, I expect you to present something in favor of that.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
And I'm assuming producing another log of innocuous-looking deletions for that same "made-up" procedural reason will not change your mind either? Do you believe organisations are unlikely to have procedural reasons that don't serve political agendas contrary to yours?
sun_the_second
7mo ago
Do you want to make a bet on how long it will stay up if I reupload the image, and state that it's fair use?
Do you want to actually do it, or to merely feel secure in your continued belief that Wikipedia maliciously deleted that picture (in a manner indistinguishable from neutral routine gruntwork)?
sun_the_second
7mo ago
On the other hand, when I play such games I do not feel having to expend any particular mental effort to resist shelling out cash, any more than I feel compelled to take any Nigerian princes up on their offers. If you're not in the susceptible target audience, those games really are free.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
Nobody could actually believe a fetus is a human life, so therefore the pro-lifers must have some other, real reason for wanting to ban abortion, therefore…
I mean, we can observe pro-lifers and find that many of them seem to value "enforced monogamy" a lot, but "lives for the sake of lives" not so much, and infer their actual motivation for banning abortion from that.
Based on how pro-lifers talk, I can see clearly how pro-choicers believe the conservatives don't care about the babies, they just want them to "take responsibility" and "not have casual sex".
sun_the_second
7mo ago
I imagine it's more like "pistol shot in the back of the head while walking them down the hallway".
sun_the_second
7mo ago
"We let it slide" as in "we allow the suicide law to exist", not "we don't enforce the suicide law".
sun_the_second
7mo ago
If emotions were truly something that are better dealt with outbursts of profanity rather than "bottled up", it would imply people most eager to use profanity and insults would be the most emotionally balanced.
It wouldn't, because "not bottling up" doesn't mean you have to take the entire bottom of the bottle away.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
Yes, the law against suicide is a violation of self-ownership as well. We just let it slide because killing yourself makes even less sense to most in the first place than killing your unborn child, so few are threatened by the law. Also obligatory "what are they gonna do, arrest my corpse?".
Drugs we ban because no one wants to become a degenerated drug addict, yet people do, so we infer that people need help staying away from drugs. Also, the problem of violent junkies.
But at the end of the day it is only a lizardman's constant who is pro-life on basis of "saving human lives" (and can be argued with about what a human life is and how far should we go saving them). The rest, I assume, are using abortion bans as a tool to enforce their preferred monogamy-for-life-for-the-purposes-of-procreation social model. I see no point arguing. I wish women were as gung-ho as right-wing men about buying guns and chanting "no step on snake".
sun_the_second
7mo ago
The unborn child isn't "another body" until you can separate them and the mother and have them both live, or otherwise enact your desire of protecting the child without involving the mother's body in it.
The state claiming ownership of the unborn child is worse than communism, because communism at least claims things that are not parts of pther people's bodies.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
I briefly tried Satisfactory and trying to align the machines in gridless, first-person 3D was too much of a hassle.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
From what I read, NK has a bustling grey market.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
Not that I necessarily disbelieve you, but it's funny how this literally sounds like one of those "and then everyone clapped" memes about kids with unusually strong and specific ethical beliefs.
This, and the comments upthread, are quite alien takes to me. Seems pretty ironclad logic that abortion, by definition, cannot be a threat to any kid who's out the womb. Neither was I ever existentially tortured by the idea that local laws allowed my mother that option; it might have helped that she never expressed anything like regret at having me. As for corrupting the parent/child relationship, it wasn't too long ago that "I who begat you shall kill you" was supposed to be the example of highest paternal honor.
I admire this. Many could have written an obviously fake display of great man-worship that wouldn't be out of place in a North Korean book about the Beloved Leader, but I don't remember ever seeing that taken this far beyond parody.
Honestly, I struggled to pick between not taking this seriously (and thus not commenting at all) and calling out how everyone else seems to be taking this seriously.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
the animals spread disease and rabies
Source? Evidently the state does not know that, they killed it to test it for rabies in the first place.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
So what is the reasoning behind infringing on this guy's property, then?
and some humiliation rituals where female self-inserts are presented as badasses at the expense of Kratos.
Valkyries stomping on his face were mostly in the 2018 game.
Other than that Kratos interacts with like 8 women over the course of the whole game, not counting the wife flashbacks. 3 of them are the norns and 3 more are the valkyrie bosses. The dwarf is 'miring at him, Freya can only beat him when he's fighting with his left pinky, the norns are apparently a humiliation ritual because he doesn't kill them? The valkyries are the valkyrie bosses, they're only as humiliating as the player's skill lets them.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
Ironically, the interruptions of the storyline are the worst thing about this supposedly backbreaking wageslave job.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
I'm reminded of a cranky user from /r/learnjavascript who was like "you don't need any library, not a single one, everything can be done in standard JS". From my understanding, this works as long as you're the only one maintaining your own code.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
The planes fly, don't they?
sun_the_second
7mo ago
On the other hand, when I rely on having precise knowledge of what someone is doing, I'd prefer them to state the technical truth and nothing but the technical truth, rather than make shit up.
sun_the_second
7mo ago
I think someone who sees "if we Republicans can't win at the ballot box we should grab our guns and start shooting" is right to be worried that the shooting will be not entirely discriminate.
You live in a village and hear a young passionate man with a red band on his arm state they'll only expropriate the needed share of corn from only the lazy bloodsuckers who exploit others. How confident are you?
"Misunderstanding of your faith" implies they have the wrong understanding of why you believe. Having the view on what your religion is that you don't agree with is not misunderstanding.
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