Personally, I would prefer Russia to be a normal country and give up imperial ambitions. Or like Germany switch to economical and bureaucratic meddling with some amount of culture warring, but with economy project that is overall beneficial and culture warring that is far less problematic than what say Third Reich was doing.
So I would prefer Russia to be peaceful with their army not murdering 100 000+ people across Ukraine.
But if they are invading countries with mine in the queue? Then well, I will celebrate Russian soldiers horribly dying, support funding lethal aid until project of rebuilding imperial Russia will go away. I funded about 4 suicide drones directly[1], my country already send 230+ tanks and I hope for more.
I am not going to deny that Russian soldiers are human or pretend that it is fine, but given alternatives I hope that Russian army will go back. In body bags if needed.
[1]And yes, I am fine with fact that I substantially contributed to some deaths of Russian soldiers. That was expected effected, though goal was not "murder as many Russians as possible" - goal is to get rid of Russian threat and get them to abandon Imperial Russia project. And I am willing to put substantial resources to block respawning USSR.
traveller
1yr ago
And then imagine after an exchange debating the evidence for the claim, you ultimately force a "stalemate" by saying "if they weren't murdered, cremated, and buried right here then where did they go?"
I would be happy to discuss facts even with neonazis, as long are they reality adjacent.
If it turns out that someone is full-bore genocide denialists (or praises Mao or claims that Pol Pot was a good leader or that there was no internal paedophilia conspiracy of any kind in Catholic Church or that there is no biological difference between males and females) then I will find better way to procrastinate.
Are you also denying that Germans were rapidly antisemitic? Are you denying deportation to ghettos? Are you denying deportation to concentration camps? Are you also denying murder of millions via shooting and starvation? (also Poles, Gypsies, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians and so on, Jews were less than half of victims of Holocaust). Are you denying that people in concentration camps were horrifyingly mistreated?
Also, are you a neonazi dear SS? Is your username shortening to SS coincidence or deliberate?
The post-war demographic data entirely comes from Soviet authorities
Not entirely. There were some many Jewish Poles that to detect that they almost entirely disappeared does not require reliable statistics. Entire communities disappeared, to the point that it was noticeable even in Poland where around 16% of population was murdered.
You are again being misleading. Populations of Jews in Poland (before they were murdered by Germans) was readily noticeable, it is not like COVID/vaccines where you need to rely on statistics to establish effects.
And for some weird reason they basically disappeared and by pure coincidence that happened during time when Germans invaded. And Germans had rabid hate toward Jews, even greater then toward Poles/Ukrainians which were supposed to be subjugated and enslaved.
Even if Germans imprisoned Jews in concentrations camps and starved there them to death, and gas chambers were entirely fake then it does not strongly change anything at all. OK, it reduces my opinion about historians. But surely it will not improve my opinion about Nazis.
Or are you denying that Germans were rapidly antisemitic? Are you denying deportation to ghettos? Are you denying deportation to concentration camps? Are you also denying murder of millions via shooting and starvation? (also Poles, Gypsies, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians and so on, Jews were less than half of victims of Holocaust). Are you denying that people in concentration camps were horrifyingly mistreated?
traveller
1yr ago
How hard is it to simply shoot the drug dealers?
Easy. Without shooting whoever-is-disliked-by-local-police? Hard.
traveller
1yr ago
Citadel by marketing material doesn’t take those risks. All factor neutral.
Many funds that failed in catastrophic ways made similar claims.
See say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management - to say nothing about repeated outright scams claiming the same
traveller
1yr ago
TI4 seems superior based on few games I played
Is
TI3:Shards of the Throne game using the Fall of the Empire scenario
having something to recommend it? Is it redoable in TI4?
traveller
1yr ago
Yeah, but they didn't know they'd bungle it when they started. Hindsight is 20:20.
With their handling hindsight was not needed.
On Sunday, after Popov already knew that Kursk was missing and presumed sunk, he briefed reporters on the progress of the naval exercise. He said the exercise had been a resounding success and spoke highly of the entire operation.
(...)
On the afternoon of the explosion, before the Kremlin had been informed of the submarine's sinking, U.S. National Security Adviser Sandy Berger and Defense Secretary William Cohen were told that Kursk had sunk.
(...)
The first official announcement of the accident was made by the Russians on Monday, 14 August. They told the media that Kursk had had "minor technical difficulties" on Sunday. They stated that the submarine had "descended to the ocean floor", that they had established contact with the crew and were pumping air and power to the boat, and that "everyone on board is alive."
(everyone was dead on 12 August, some sailors survived about 6 hours )
Not to mention, of course, that the Russian command did bungle it.
And also accepted foreign aid. With gems such as
transcript revealed that Putin told the families that Admiral of the Fleet Vladimir Kuroyedov had agreed to accept foreign assistance as soon as it was offered on Wednesday, 16 August, but he was shouted down as soon as he offered this explanation. The family members knew from media reports that foreign assistance had been offered on Monday.
and
Six teams of British and Norwegian divers arrived on Friday, 18 August. (...) When the divers attempted to open the air-control valve, it would not move. Russian experts told the divers that they must open the valve anticlockwise, or they would break it. The divers finally went against the experts' advice and tried turning it clockwise, which worked.
(from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_submarine_disaster )
traveller
1yr ago
To put it another way, from the perspective of Russian Naval command, the secrets of the Kursk are arguably worth more than the lives of the crew
That explains nothing or makes it worse, as British and Norwegian assistance was in the end accepted.
traveller
1yr ago
You do not have to even recall the Kursk incident, you could do similarly well investigating sinking of the Moskva cruiser and Black Sea fleet flagship.
not entirely sure how well Moskva report is confirmed and checked, while Kursk situation is 100% clear.
traveller
1yr ago
Thanks, I was unaware of that!
traveller
1yr ago
Yes, but I admit that it was one of my immediate thoughts. Maybe because it was depressing and pole is without any context? And in my areas public transport poles are not standalone in the middle but more bundled with other parts of the vehicle?
traveller
1yr ago
trivial to cure COVID since day 1
I am going to file it with "cancer is trivially treatable, evil medical companies are suppressing news about herbal remedies"
traveller
1yr ago
You are free to say that but it has no relation to what the "Holocaust" actually is.
and then you quote
The possible final remnant
I think that you found the genocide confirmation that you were looking for?
traveller
1yr ago
Realistically, I was in the pit because I was terrified, not because I was unmotivated. Without these replacements I likely would have exited stage left.
Maybe but there is also issue of "best alternative".
Lets imagine a future world: you can get generated porn tailored to your interests (lets say without creepy incest titles if you are not into it), you can get extremely tasty food that will not make you fat, you can play excellent games better than anything existing now, better illusion of companionship (GPT-189 as a girlfriend/friend/son substitute).
I bet that it would be far more attractive than current games/porn/parasocial stuff like Only Fans. And far more people would end there.
Also, we would have less suicides, I guess.
And our world has things in that direction that have not existed 200 years ago or were much less attractive. So for more people it may be more attractive - or even a truly better alternative!
traveller
1yr ago
If I get infected, I'm getting a few particles as part of a spray.
no, cells in your body are hijacked to produce endless copies of virus
if you are infected it is not going to be "few particles"
traveller
1yr ago
Why would I address it when you aren't even trying to defend mainstream historiography?
So you are agreeing that Germans murdered millions of Jews, just not with gas chambers?
traveller
1yr ago
Secondly, the loss of buffer states creates huge opportunities for proxy wars.
It seems to me that starting proxy war against NATO is a poor way to avoid proxy wars against NATO.
traveller
1yr ago
Though the same group proves that PoWs were treated awfully by Russia.
So apparently really bad treatment is happening, though without routine murder of surrendering Ukrainians. Always nice to be passing some standards.
traveller
1yr ago
Also, if you have reputation of treating PoW decently then enemy is more likely to surrender than make doomed last stands.
In addition war crimes are bad also to people doing them and people around and is making harder to have stable sane society after war if typical soldier in your army is a torturer and rapist and whoever else.
traveller
1yr ago
What was the window of opportunity for Ukraine to run away, in your view?
Directly after fall of communism and some time later. Plenty of stuff was stolen during that time in Poland but Ukraine went far further and economical growth was anaemic later.
The made some steps since 2014 but it was too late to avoid Russian invasion and may be also too late to avoid conquest by Russia.
not checking this, but given how "evacuations" were defined by Germans I would be suspicious what will happen with remaining ones. Also, if people there were aware of what awaits people "liberated" by Soviets vs actually liberated, then trying to escape both Third Reich and USSR would be a good idea.
(See German armies trying to escape to Elbe’s shore to not end under USSR rule, with help to substantial numbers of civilians marking a rare case of Wermacht doing something good during WW II)
And guess, how many Poles volunteered? And why ratio was so low despite USSR being evil, dangerous and both fact known widely in Poland?
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