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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 29, 2024

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Q: Why doesn't Trump swap out Vance for one of his sons?

It seems like endowing anyone outside the family with VP levels of power is going to screw Trump in the long term. Pence continues to say Trump's unfit for democratic office as do many of his previous associates. Vance has previous form of the same hate reaction that many Dems find themselves having in response to Trump, and may revert to that once it's no longer advantageous to support Trump. So he adds distrust to the ticket.

Plus, Vance currently is an obvious drag on Trump because he doesn't have the ability to constantly shift and twirl that Trump does. People said upon Vance's pick that he would provide a kind of ideological scaffolding for Trumpism but that concept is absurd, because it implies creating a system that makes explicit and clear Trump's commitments – what he'll stick to and what he'll abandon when necessary. That making-explicit will by its nature damage Trump because it restricts his freedom of movement and ability to retroactively choose which things that come out of his mouth are literal, which are serious but not literal, and which are simply jokes. Without that freedom to dodge, the gymnastic elephant that is Trump would eventually be brought down for good.

Choosing one of the sons would communicate clearly to people that there is a VP on the ticket who owes his very existence not just his power to Trump and cannot, will not differ from him. It would help bolster the idea that voters are choosing Trump, a man they feel they have an emotional, animal connection with, rather than a party or set of policies, and that the number two on the ticket is as in thrall to Donald Trump Senior as they are themselves.

True, it would create doubt over the succession plan if something happens to Trump while in office, but tbh with Trump on the ticket that is always the case because he is just not readily replaceable.

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The more interesting question IMO is where is all this talk about "swapping out Vance" coming from?

Is it some sort of Journo-List thing?

It's bizarre. There's no one Trump could have chosen that the media would have applauded. Being disappointed by the lack of applause shows a failure to understand the current meta.

Choosing a blood relation as his VP candidate would be a disaster and would validate a lot of the worst things people say about Trump. Vance, on the other hand, shows that Trump is at least trying to bring serious people into his administration. He's a great pick.

I have no idea if Vance is a serious person because he appears to have no deeply held views besides bending in whichever way the political winds are blowing. The fact that all the weirdest and most online rightoids love him makes me think he’s probably not serious.

There's no one Trump could have chosen that the media would have applauded.

There are a lot of potential candidates who don’t give half the electorate the ick. Burgum, Rubio, Romney, etc.

Rubio would be an ok choice but is probably more useful to the party as a Senator. I don't know enough about Burgam to have an opinion, but can say with confidence that Romney would've been an absolutely terrible choice likely to alienate both Republicans and Democrats. Cheney or Manchin would come with less baggage than Romney.

Romney never would have agreed, though, so it's super strange he was even being mentioned. I mean, he was the only person to vote to convict Trump on impeachment!

That's just one of several reasons that I think picking Romney would alienate even more potential Trump voters than picking Cheney.

Meanwhile the Democrats would presumably dust off all thier old "Mormon Christo-Fascists puting women in binders, dogs on roofs, and blacks in chains" talking points from 2012 for round 2.

Even if Romney agreed, (which as you point out is doubtful) he'd be a terrible pick.